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You do realise that in many traditional and old Christian churches; you are considered a Heretic!

So you really have to consider that fact and that you may be on a wrong footing with God.

You do realise that in many traditional and old Christian churches; you are considered a Heretic!

So you really have to consider that fact and that you may be on a wrong footing with God.

The early biblical church said exactly what Clirus is saying.

Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

Jesus said:

Mat 18:15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.
Mat 18:16 "But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.'
Mat 18:17 "And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

Clearly, Christ agrees with believers keeping themselves separate from sin and unrepentant sinners, even to the extent of ostracizing them.

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“When one man could cause so much evil - think about how much love we can create together.”

Huge difference: Not having ayting to do with deeds of darkness and not having anything to do with sinners.

Besides the verse you quoted concerns itself with unrepentent believers.

Besides there's Matthew 13:
The Parable of the Weeds

24Jesus told them another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.
27"The owner's servants came to him and said, 'Sir, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?'

28" 'An enemy did this,' he replied.
"The servants asked him, 'Do you want us to go and pull them up?'

29" 'No,' he answered, 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' "
plus the example of Christ's life and the lives of the Apostles. Did they shun sinners? No. Jesus and the apostles did not shun sinners, but spoke to them and even partied with them.

Your position needs revising if you really think we're supposed to keep to ourselves.Have you forgotten even the Great Commission?

Who said not to have anything to do with sinners?

Clirus presented the issue as it would be better for society to operate the way the church is told to, than to simply accept sin as it is. I didn't think either of us were saying Christians should keep to themselves, but we certainly shouldn't just do as the Romans do. And it would be better for society to rebuke or ultimately exclude unrepentant sinners, it's just not going to happen. Society, of course, is not the church.

I take sinner to mean someone whose lifestyle is sinful. If it meant anyone who ever has or at least occasionally does sin, the term might as well be 'human being'. It should not be said that a saint, a member of God's flock, is a sinner. Compassion is good, but also dangerous. Any time we try to help someone out of sin, we run the risk of giving in to temptation ourselves, whether that someone is a believer or an unbeliever.

The prevalent attitude of Christianity today seems to be that God is OK with sin as long as you have Jesus (almost as bad as the lie that simply going to church will grant you salvation). But if you don't have a new relationship with sin, you don't have a new relationship with God. I think modern Christianity tries to hard not to step on any toes when spreading the gospel, and because of that the gospel suffers.