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Old 17th July 2009, 08:31 PM
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I presume I showed up a little too late ehh? Sounds like ya'll settled everything.
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kton, I think not at all. I could go on all day about the differences between Pentecostal and Charismatic, all though they have been pretty well summed up.

One that got missed though, is a lot of churches that call themselves Pentecostal tend to favor a more traditional church setting, whereas a Charismatic church will be a little more progressive. It can be one of the biggest differences.
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Old 21st July 2009, 03:21 AM
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Some people distinguish on the basis of history rather than doctrine. For them, "Pentecostal" refers to denominations that originated around the turn of the 20th C. and believe in "speaking in tongues," while "Charismatic" refers to the Spiritual-gifts renewal movement that began within "traditional" denominations around the 1960s.
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Everyone Christian is Charismatic. Grace Gifts is the meaning of Charismatic, so if your saved by Grace rather than the Law of Moses then your Charismatic.



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Everyone Christian is Charismatic. Grace Gifts is the meaning of Charismatic, so if your saved by Grace rather than the Law of Moses then your Charismatic.



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While this may be LINGUISTICALLY and THEORHETICALLY correct . . . it is not practically correct.

Every Christian SHOULD be walking in the charisms of the NT . . . but alas many are NOT.

Oh, that all the people of God would persue Him for all that He is and would be in them . . . (sigh)
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Originally Posted by ajqrszwn View Post
I'm interested in a discussion on Charismatic theology.

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Try googling charismatic theology forum. It may turn up interesting links.
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There are even chaismatics in "cults" and world religions.
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Originally Posted by Mathetes the kerux View Post
Actually the easiest way is to distinguish based upon Spirit Baptism.

Pentecostals strictly believe in a secondary experience with the Spirit termed "Baptism in the Spirit" of which tongues is the Initial Physical Evidence.

Charismatics widen the spectrum with a simple belief in the seeking, propogating and continuance of the Gifts of the Spirit. These may or may not ascribe to Spirit Baptism.

The distinction between the two theologies is primarily concerning Spirit Baptism while the two are united in the belief in the continuance of the Gifts of the Spirit.
I am a charismatic United Methodist.

First, I would say that charismatics do believe in being Baptized in the Holy Ghost. Second, the phrase "evidencal tongues" is where charismatics differ. Pentecostals tend to stress only "evidencal tongues". Charismatics are more balanced in that one particular gifts of the Spirit is not the initial or required evidence of being Baptized in the Holy Ghost. The Charismatic Movement did start historically because speaking in tongues was an imminent phenomenon in the historic denominations outside of institutionalized Pentecostalism. Finally, tongues is not the evidence or only evidence of Baptized in the Holy Spirit. God through time used tongues as evidence, but Bible does not say God has to or always uses tongues right when someone gets Baptized in the Holy Ghost. Bible does speak of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost closely related and manifested with speaking in tonges. Nevertheless, Faith is the evidence (Heb. 6:1-2).

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Well I dont know how you were raised or what your views are on charismatics is but let me tell you a little obout what I see. I would say that most Charizmatics are also nondenominational, Apostolic, pentecostal, and there are some that believe in the trinity but they did not start out that way or they came out of that beliefe. The differences amongst them are very minimal. The reason that this is such a hot topic is that most of them are spirit filled. Not tickling ears with docturnal hogwash. They are the real deal. When GOD visits a church with an outpouring then it grows and sometimnes gets stronger. If the theology is conducive for it. Other wise it splits. A lot of times Charasmatics flow into churches from other main stream denominations that except their biblical Acts experiance. The above is some of those churches. Those who have had the experiance usualy operate in power and can do things that those who have never had it can do. That realy irritates those who don't have it. Some even deny the experiance. That only shows what is in their hearts. Having a form of goldlyness and denying the power there of. In truth they actualy persecute the real Christians because they are afraid of them. They do good works to earn salvation. Christians who have been realy visited by God and are approved by him will endure some testing. Those who have no trouble in this life are not sons but bastards. The word says that not me. If you have had the experiance then you defenatly know God and he is known of you. If you havent had the experiance then Ask, Seek and Keep knocking untill you do. Now you may think that not all those who preforme miracles will enter heaven. That is true. There was a certain man in the bible who was casting out devils and the desciples ask the Lord about it. He said that those who are for us we should not hinder "paraphrased" The spirit was not given until pentecost. I don't care about what others say. If you have never had an ACTs pentecostal experiance you don't give up or whine until you do. Love cost u somthing. Always. The problem is that most are afraid of the experiance because they are proud and unwilling to loose some of the dignity and become vulnerable before God. They get lost in doctrine. The word tells us what pure religion is. Look it up in a concordinance. Paul said what sound doctrine was also. Ask, seek and knock.
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First of all it sounds like at one time you had some legitimate questions and then you were spoon feed with this we are all the same garbage. Mixed with don't wory every one goes to heaven, followed by some kind of progressive eartickling junk. Let me be the first to tell you that not all christians are charasmatic because the spirit gives the gifts and not all quote un quote christians have the holy spirit. That doesnt mean that God doesnt love you. It means that U havent shown him that you realy love him. He does not waste his time on people who are in love with this life and its comforts. Those who hate this life will find life eternal. Some people he gave natural gifts and others he gave spirtual Gifts along with the tangible infilling of the Holy Ghost. If you want the real thing you may have to give something up or go through a fiery trial. Don't ask the people who tell you what you want to hear though. You must seek out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Ask, seek and knock until you have an encounter with God. It will probably cost you though. How bad you want it?
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