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2nd March 2009, 03:49 PM
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Okay, quick question Carey: is slavery more or less of a problem in Africa now than it was at the height of the slave trade?
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2nd March 2009, 03:49 PM
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Reps: 172,174,023,564,451 (power: 172,174,023,603) | | Originally Posted by Carey That is rediculous.
What is r Idiculous? I asked you a question and asked for some form of proof. Does the fact that you provided none mean you don't have any? I am sure a small % of the ones actively capturing and craeting the slave product were whites who had been corrupted into the cruel Black creation of slavery.
The slave product? But to put the Guilt on any race other than the Black race for slavery is illogical.
Look the fact is, even if everything you are saying 10% accurate, which it isn't but let's say it is. Once the first generation of Africans and all subsequent ones born here in the New World and held as slaves can be directly attributed white Europeans. How do you dismiss that?
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2nd March 2009, 03:55 PM
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2nd March 2009, 04:03 PM
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Reps: 142,484,466 (power: 142,489) | | Originally Posted by Carey That is rediculous.
I am sure a small % of the ones actively capturing and craeting the slave product were whites who had been corrupted into the cruel Black creation of slavery.
But to put the Guilt on any race other than the Black race for slavery is illogical.
This only comes across as you trying to re-write history Carey, why are you doing it?
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2nd March 2009, 04:11 PM
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2nd March 2009, 04:14 PM
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2nd March 2009, 05:00 PM
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Reps: 203,247,259,562 (power: 203,247,274) | | | hmmm Originally Posted by praying What is rIdiculous? I asked you a question and asked for some form of proof. Does the fact that you provided none mean you don't have any?
The slave product?
Look the fact is, even if everything you are saying 10% accurate, which it isn't but let's say it is. Once the first generation of Africans and all subsequent ones born here in the New World and held as slaves can be directly attributed white Europeans. How do you dismiss that?
They were born as slaves because blacks made their parents slaves and then sold them to whites.
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2nd March 2009, 05:29 PM
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Reps: 172,174,023,564,451 (power: 172,174,023,603) | | Originally Posted by Carey They were born as slaves because blacks made their parents slaves and then sold them to whites.
You got that spin cycle on high don't you.
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2nd March 2009, 05:40 PM
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Reps: 203,247,259,562 (power: 203,247,274) | | | hahhaa Originally Posted by praying You got that spin cycle on high don't you. 
No the propoganda machine has been spinning so long the majority of people are blind to the facts.
I just did not get dizzy riding the propoganda machine as I went through school....
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3rd March 2009, 08:42 AM
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Reps: 432,857,370,051,261 (power: 432,857,370,057) | | Originally Posted by praying Blacks and whites traded for slaves in Africa. Here in America the slave market was 98% white owned and controlled. That aside, should we just say, ohh those Europeans they were forced into owning slaves by those evil black Africans? 
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