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Old 19th March 2009, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by roflcopter101 View Post
They may regard children as less valuable compared to holy land.
Additionally, the loss of such dirt leads to overcrowding and a serious refugee problem in neighboring regions, which is a serious problem in terms of health care and education. It's a fair guess to say that Palestinians are not happy about this.
Well if the majority are not terrorists like hamas and hezbullah then they should over throw them because they are the ones causing all the problems for the Palestinians.
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Old 20th March 2009, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Carey
Well if the majority are not terrorists like hamas and hezbullah then they should over throw them because they are the ones causing all the problems for the Palestinians.
How are Hamas and Hezbollah the cause of all the problems?

And how would you define "terrorists" vs. "freedom fighters"? The best way to describe such organizations would be calling them "militants."

And I cannot know whether the majority of Palestinians are against militants that help fight against the nation responsible for (in their view) stealing their land, but due to the circumstances I imagine it is a majority.
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Originally Posted by roflcopter101 View Post
How are Hamas and Hezbollah the cause of all the problems?

And how would you define "terrorists" vs. "freedom fighters"? The best way to describe such organizations would be calling them "militants."

And I cannot know whether the majority of Palestinians are against militants that help fight against the nation responsible for (in their view) stealing their land, but due to the circumstances I imagine it is a majority.
Freedom fighters blow themselves up in buses full of children and crowded pizza parlors. Terrorists do much the same thing.
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With their backing of hate law legislation in places like Canada, where holocaust -deniers are in fact labeled as 'racist', liberals and the left have already defined the term racist.
The right does not disagree.

By that token, Durban I was a racist fiasco. Durban II will be more of the same. The new American government apparently does not raise any objection to the kind of language put forth here.


http://www.hudsonny.org/2009/02/obam...-durban-ii.php
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While I'm not one to deny the holocaust--though I do question the circumstances, and the numbers--people sure seem awfully bound and determined to make holocaust-denial speech illegal. Makes you wonder....
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Originally Posted by Col3_11n12
While I'm not one to deny the holocaust--though I do question the circumstances, and the numbers--people sure seem awfully bound and determined to make holocaust-denial speech illegal. Makes you wonder....
Why do we have laws about libel? Same reason there are laws against Holocaust denial.
However, yes, it is an issue of free speech, but it is difficult to argue for the case of Holocaust denial due to a slight lack of evidence in comparison to Holocaust believers.
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If the holocaust did not in fact occur the way mainstream belief has it, then the libel is in fact against the Germans.
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Originally Posted by Col3_11n12
If the holocaust did not in fact occur the way mainstream belief has it, then the libel is in fact against the Germans.
Which is exactly why we must prove our claims.
Currently, the combination of written, oral, physical, statistical, and photographical testimony is more than enough to convince most beyond a reasonable doubt that the Holocaust did in fact occur.
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How can you begin to prove your claims when it is illegal to even talk about it?

...or is that the whole idea?

Makes ya wonder.
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Originally Posted by Col3_11n12
How can you begin to prove your claims when it is illegal to even talk about it?
From the European Union Directive for Combating Racism and Xenophobia:
The following intentional conduct will be punishable in all EU Member States:
publicly inciting to violence or hatred, even by dissemination or distribution of tracts, pictures or other material, directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin; publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes as defined in the Statute of the International Criminal Court (Articles 6, 7 and 8) directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin, and crimes defined by the Tribunal of Nuremberg (Article 6 of the Charter of the International Military Tribunal, London Agreement of 1945) directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin.
I believe that "publicly" in this section refers to announcing to the world "HEY GUYS, THE HOLOCAUST DIDN'T HAPPEN KTHXLOL!" rather than investigative work. I don't think it's a "shoot on sight" law.
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