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Old 6th November 2009, 07:11 PM
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Israel helps other nations wow!!! Using American money it is extra money from the US to "IMPROVE" the Israeli's reputation.
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Old 6th November 2009, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by formy View Post
Israel helps other nations wow!!! Using American money it is extra money from the US to "IMPROVE" the Israeli's reputation.
Do muslim countries have humanitarian efforts outside of muslim countries?
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Old 6th November 2009, 07:14 PM
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Do muslim countries have humanitarian efforts outside of muslim countries?
Yes. We help alot in eastern europe, asia and latin america.
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Old 7th November 2009, 06:41 AM
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This is not a "Mine is better than yours" competition. Strife, be it political, racial, or ethnic is almost always rooted in the wants and needs of the few who stoop to profit from it!

For decades now it has been the policy of the US to keep the middle east destabilised in order to better control two things; Oil and arms trade.

Billions of dollars in defence are spent by the middle east countries and all because of the fear due to destabilisation.

US foreign policies have in the past created so much animosity against the US that at present were it not for Obama buying time; the US would be in dire danger of constant terrorist threats.

God has nothing to do with it. It is failed politics that were implemented in the name of profit.

If the US is to have any chance of being an accepted member of the global community then the President of the USA must continue with his olive branch policies. There is no other way out of this.

The Bush administration proved that the application of force and might in foreign policy can only cause more problems.
To the so called anti Obama devout Christians; may I remind them of the following: "Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall inherit the kingdom of God"
Now we all know that Bush was not a peacemaker!

Now y'all have a nice day there
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To the so called anti Obama devout Christians; may I remind them of the following: "Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall inherit the kingdom of God"
Now we all know that Bush was not a peacemaker!
I'm sure you will get some responses claiming that Bush was actually using war to bring about peace or some similar nonsense. The idea that you can only have real peace by killing everyone who opposes you (or whom you consider to be opposing you) seems to be fairly common among a segment of American Christians unfortunately. It's the same logic that lead to the MX nuclear missile being called the "peace keeper".

I'm not sure I would label Obama a "peace maker" now however. If all our troops are out of Iraq and Afghanistan before his term is up I might consider it though.
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Old 8th November 2009, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Christos Anesti View Post
I'm sure you will get some responses claiming that Bush was actually using war to bring about peace or some similar nonsense. The idea that you can only have real peace by killing everyone who opposes you (or whom you consider to be opposing you) seems to be fairly common among a segment of American Christians unfortunately. It's the same logic that lead to the MX nuclear missile being called the "peace keeper".

I'm not sure I would label Obama a "peace maker" now however. If all our troops are out of Iraq and Afghanistan before his term is up I might consider it though.
Last ime we nuked a counry we have had peace with it ever sinc.
Strange huh?
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Old 8th November 2009, 07:20 PM
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Last ime we nuked a counry we have had peace with it ever sinc.
Strange huh?
So nuking Japan was a good thing in the American history? What a good idea why don't you run for president and nuke half the world to make peace.
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Old 8th November 2009, 07:27 PM
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Then by all means let him speak for himself without having interpreters of his will speaking for him without his consent!
He has. It is written. He makes promises throughout the old testament and the new testament, concluding in Revelation.

Can you see the smoke of His wrath yet? There will be no place to hide when He shows His face. There will be those who tell the rocks to fall on them to hide them from the face of the One Who comes in wrath. Yet there will be no place to hide.

You may want to read it for more clarity.
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So nuking Japan was a good thing in the American history? What a good idea why don't you run for president and nuke half the world to make peace.
I dont think we would have to nuke half the world but if we took out a few cities simultaneously in a few countries with radical leaders in them I think we could have world peace.

t worked with Japan they re now our close ally.
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Originally Posted by Carey View Post
I dont think we would have to nuke half the world but if we took out a few cities simultaneously in a few countries with radical leaders in them I think we could have world peace.

t worked with Japan they re now our close ally.
This is insanity.
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