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Originally Posted by interpreter View Post
You are so right. The whole world will come together against Israel and the US, its only ally. It is prophesied. And guess what? Israel and the US win.
Just out of curiousity, I don't recall seeing the US in the prophecy.
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Originally Posted by Carey View Post
All the land promise was to the blood genetic decendents of isaac.
Where does it say that? The heirs to Abrahams promise are his "seed", his "seed" being those who accept Christ.
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Originally Posted by Carey View Post
Obama's Durban II team slipped easily into the U.N.'s anti-Israel and anti-Jewish environs, taking the approach that "fitting in" was best accomplished by staying silent.
On Tuesday, the Palestinian delegation proposed inserting a new paragraph under the heading "Identification of further concrete measures and initiatives ... for combating and eliminating all manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance..." with the subtitle "General provisions on victims ... of discrimination." The paragraph includes: "Calls for ... the international protection of the Palestinian people throughout the occupied Palestinian territory." In other words, it claims that the Palestinian people are victims of Israeli racism and demands that all U.N. states provide protection from the affronts of the racist Jewish state.
Furthermore, the new Palestinian provision "Calls for ... implementation of international legal obligations, including the advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice on the wall..." This is a dramatic attempt to change an "advisory opinion" into a "legal obligation"--a status which attaches to no advisory opinion. The ICJ decision, which advises that the Israeli security fence is illegal, has always been rejected by the United States--hitherto. And with good reason. The Egyptian judge had voiced his opinion on the result before the case was even heard, in his capacity as a leading Egyptian diplomat. The terms of reference from the General Assembly who asked for the decision, and the documents they laid before the Court, predetermined the outcome. And as the strong dissent by the American judge and Holocaust survivor Tom Buergenthal pointed out, the Court came to its preposterous conclusion that "the right of legitimate or inherent self-defense is not applicable in the present case" without considering "the deadly terrorist attacks to which Israel is being subjected."

The Obama Administration Sacrifices Israel - Forbes.com
This is evil. Those who curse Israel God will curse. Those who bless Israel God will bless. Obama has forged another link on that chain encircling his soul.

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posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran
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Originally Posted by FrenchAffair View Post
Where does it say that? The heirs to Abrahams promise are his "seed", his "seed" being those who accept Christ.
Where is that written?
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posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran
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Originally Posted by The Lady Kate View Post
Just out of curiousity, I don't recall seeing the US in the prophecy.
The US is the 4th horseman, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse (see Rev. 6:7-8). We are the 4th Christian kingdom to rule the earth.
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Originally Posted by interpreter View Post
The US is the 4th horseman, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse. We are th 4th Christian kingdom to rule the earth.
hmmmmm...you have a point there
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Originally Posted by interpreter View Post
The US is the 4th horseman, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse (see Rev. 6:7-8). We are the 4th Christian kingdom to rule the earth.
Except we're secular and we're not a kingdom.
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Originally Posted by The Lady Kate View Post
Except we're secular and we're not a kingdom.
it's steeped in the kingdom of darkness.
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It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran
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The US is the 4th horseman, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse (see Rev. 6:7-8). We are the 4th Christian kingdom to rule the earth.
The US in NOT a Kingdom, it is a Republic. So before you go making things up just to make the Bible fit your views; May I sugest you look up the meanings of the words?
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Originally Posted by tanzanos View Post
The US in NOT a Kingdom, it is a Republic. So before you go making things up just to make the Bible fit your views; May I sugest you look up the meanings of the words?
God has the final say on this.
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It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran
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