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Originally Posted by Hespera View Post
As i mentioned before, this is pretty funny coming from someone whose ancestors were
chucking spears at wooly mammoths while mine were sipping tea and writing poetry.
:-( My ancestors were planting corn and developing decent ecological processes until another people's ancestors gave them small pox. :-(
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Originally Posted by Hespera View Post
As i mentioned before, this is pretty funny coming from someone whose ancestors were
chucking spears at wooly mammoths while mine were sipping tea and writing poetry.
"history can take a hike" eh
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I can see how it is with you guys.

I recently asked my wife if she had any problems whatsoever with Embedded Age, and she said, "none".

As I have said before, the only ones who seem to have problems with this, is you guys.

I have a whole church full of people who either nod, or say, "Amen", when the pastor preaches this stuff.
I'm afraid the only ones who have a problem with "embedded age" are people who understand the problems of such theology.

I can't help it if you guys don't understand --- especially when you make jokes, etc. between explanations, call God a liar and a deceiver, and throw ad hominems my way.
We do understand. You fail to understand the implications of such theology. If God created the appearance of something that never happened, that is a lie. Most people who would believe such a thing would never really stop and think about the deeper implications of "embedded age" theology.


And yet I've clearly said that Embedded Age is maturity without history. I wouldn't have to specify "without" if this wasn't a special case, but it is a one-time, one-week, act of omnipotence that not even the angels can repeat.Here it is --- please note yet again my exclusion of the passage of time:
  • maturity without history
And I've given you several examples of how you cannot have an old earth without a history. 250 million year old rock signifies age, fossils in 250 million year old rock signifies history.
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Originally Posted by Hespera
As i mentioned before, this is pretty funny coming from someone whose ancestors were
chucking spears at wooly mammoths while mine were sipping tea and writing poetry.
:-( My ancestors were planting corn and developing decent ecological processes until another people's ancestors gave them small pox. :-(



Hespera sez>>>>>>>

Well one of our posters assures us that the native americans were evil and that the conquistodores etc were just doing gods will and judgement. They is christianized now, and it wuz the best thing ever hapened to 'em. so dont take it hard. It helped a lot. i heard about that.
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Originally Posted by BananaSlug View Post
Maybe God embedded an extra few millenia of human history as well.
And I'm telling you --- for the umpteenth time --- that embedded history is Omphalism.

This is one concept you cannot seem to grasp.
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6000 year old Chinese writing- embedded age. 3.7 million year footprints- embedded age. Any human history older than 6,000 years, it was embedded.
No, it wasn't --- it is non-existent.
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We've found many human fossils (of actual Homo sapiens) that are much older than 6,000 years. I presume God embedded the age in these bones as well, huh AV?
And I'm not going to discuss fossils in a thread dedicated to Embedded Age Creation.

The one thing you are not doing in this thread is telling us why Embedded Age is wrong. In fact, you want to discuss everything BUT embedded age, and, to be honest, I can clearly see that you have no idea what Embedded Age is - (but you're not alone here).
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Originally Posted by ragarth View Post
:-( My ancestors were planting corn and developing decent ecological processes until another people's ancestors gave them small pox. :-(
Your ancestors, in the context of this thread, were walking and talking with the Creator of the universe in a garden that He planted --- as two fully-mature, married adults.
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Originally Posted by BananaSlug View Post
We do understand. You fail to understand the implications of such theology. If God created the appearance of something that never happened, that is a lie. Most people who would believe such a thing would never really stop and think about the deeper implications of "embedded age" theology.
BananaSlug, I can assure you that I'm using all the patience I can muster to keep from threading-out. I am so tired of telling you over and over, between you guys' jokes and ad hominems, the difference between embedded age and embedded history.

I don't "fail to understand" a thing --- believe me --- you are the one who fails to understand.

You baited me here with a discussion I thought was going to be on the Creation Week, and you want to discuss fossils, the Chinese, and everything but Creation.
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BananaSlug, I can assure you that I'm using all the patience I can muster to keep from threading-out. I am so tired of telling you over and over, between you guys' jokes and ad hominems, the difference between embedded age and embedded history.

I don't "fail to understand" a thing --- believe me --- you are the one who fails to understand.

You baited me here with a discussion I thought was going to be on the Creation Week, and you want to discuss fossils, the Chinese, and everything but Creation.
AV, I attempted to understand your proposition, but when I tried to rephrase it to you, you responded with lunch meat. I did not make a joke about your beliefs, and I did not provide an ad hominem, but I received inanity back telling me neither if I had your belief right or wrong, or why. By saying you were telling us the difference, when my experience in this thread has been you have had no such interest in doing so is ridiculous.
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Well one of our posters assures us that the native americans were evil and that the conquistodores etc were just doing gods will and judgement. They is christianized now, and it wuz the best thing ever hapened to 'em. so dont take it hard. It helped a lot. i heard about that.
Please don't remind me of that cesspool of bigotry.
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Originally Posted by ragarth View Post
AV, I attempted to understand your proposition, but when I tried to rephrase it to you, you responded with lunch meat. I did not make a joke about your beliefs, and I did not provide an ad hominem, but I received inanity back telling me neither if I had your belief right or wrong, or why. By saying you were telling us the difference, when my experience in this thread has been you have had no such interest in doing so is ridiculous.
I didn't understand a word of your post, Ragarth --- and to be honest --- I thought it a little crass of you to be injecting scientfic theory, or whatever that stuff was, into an explanation that is so blame easy to understand.

Once again, the Creation Week is not --- repeat: NOT --- science --- it is history, and [all] your science can go to Helsinki for all I care.
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