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Old 25th February 2009, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jpark43 View Post
We are no longer under the law. The law was our guard until faith would arrive. (Galatians 3:23) Now that faith has come, since John (Luke 16:16), the law is summed up in one that is love. (Romans 13:9) John preached that salvation is by belief and repentance. And by the hearing of faith, we recieved the Holy Spirit. (Galatians 3:2) If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law but under grace. (Galatians 5:18) For we are not saved by works, but by grace. (Ephesians 2:8-9) This is His new commandment: Love your neighbor as yourself. (1 John 3:23)

I would advise anyone who has a problem with the law read the book of Galatians. This book is a provactive reading, guaranteed to fill your soul with sorrow and happiness. It is a good thing to know that we are no longer under the law.

Praise the Lord.
Very true. So how should Christians view God's words in the Law? After all, the Ten Commandments. Do we just cut and paste?
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... it was, however, written for that time, and needs to be evaluated in modern context.
What do you mean?
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Originally Posted by IAmLegion. View Post
What do you mean?
I mean that the laws of Leviticus were relevant to a semi nomadic bronze age pastoralist societ living in the middle East. Since most of us no longer live sich a lifestyle, elements of the Levitical law need to be reconsidered.

Thats in the first place... the second place is that Jesus released us from observance to the old Law under the New Covenant
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What is its modern role? Morality is derived from creatively interpreting apocryphal texts, not the desire to reduce human suffering. Creatively interpret.
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Originally Posted by one11 View Post
Are some saying the Levitical Law was written just for men then? Are there any specific laws in Leviticus that pertain to women?

My post is in reply to Ollie Franz and Lighthorseman's posts thus far.
Look at Leviticus 18:23 and Leviticus 20:15-16. Here it is forbidden for a man and just as forbidden for a woman. In most of the adultery and "incest" laws, although described from the male point of view, both a man and a woman are involved. In this law, only one human participant is involved, and it specifically includes women as well as men. But Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 are silent on women.
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What is its modern role? Morality is derived from creatively interpreting apocryphal texts, not the desire to reduce human suffering. Creatively interpret.
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Originally Posted by jpark43 View Post
We are no longer under the law. The law was our guard until faith would arrive. (Galatians 3:23) Now that faith has come, since John (Luke 16:16), the law is summed up in one that is love. (Romans 13:9) John preached that salvation is by belief and repentance. And by the hearing of faith, we recieved the Holy Spirit. (Galatians 3:2) If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law but under grace. (Galatians 5:18) For we are not saved by works, but by grace. (Ephesians 2:8-9) This is His new commandment: Love your neighbor as yourself. (1 John 3:23)

I would advise anyone who has a problem with the law read the book of Galatians. This book is a provactive reading, guaranteed to fill your soul with sorrow and happiness. It is a good thing to know that we are no longer under the law.

Praise the Lord.
Hi JPark,

Good answer.
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If your faith is still working, you should be able to put together a more intelligent string of words. Just want to know what you think.
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Originally Posted by IAmLegion. View Post
If your faith is still working, you should be able to put together a more intelligent string of words. Just want to know what you think.
Um, ok... I believe that morality is determined by the course of action that leeds to the greatest reduction in human suffering.

Hows that?
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