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Old 22nd February 2009, 04:34 AM
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Comprehensive list of healing scriptures

I went to Bible Gateway and typed the keywords "sickness", "disease", and "heal". I looked at all the Bible verses and I found something very interesting. Not in one single scripture does God promise to put sickness on those who trust and obey Him. To the contrary, He promises that whoever trusts Him and obeys him will be healed. The only time in the Bible when God sent sickness on people is when they were in extreme rebellion against him, and even in that, when they returned, he healed them.

I can categorically state after doing this search that anyone who states "God makes His obedient children sick" is completely misrepresenting Scripture, and they base their belief on the reasonings of man, not on the word of God itself.

The Bible states nowhere that God makes His children sick.

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And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I -have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.
-Exodus 15:26

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And ye shall serve the LORD your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee.
-Exodus 23:25

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Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers: And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee. Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle. And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all them that hate thee.
-Deuteronomy 7:12-15

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And they said, If ye send away the ark of the God of Israel, send it not empty; but in any wise return him a trespass offering: then ye shall be healed, and it shall be known to you why his hand is not removed from you.
-I Samuel 6:3

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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
-II Chronicles 7;14

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Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases
-Psalm 103:3
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He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds
-Psalm 147:3

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Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones
-Proverbs 3:7,8

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My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh. Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.
-Proverbs 4:20-23

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Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up
-Hosea 6:1

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But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
-Malachi 4:2

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When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
-Matthew 8:16,17

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The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
-Luke 4:18,19

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And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them
-Luke 9:53-56

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How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
-Acts 10:38

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And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
-I Thessalonians 5:23

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Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
-James 5:14,15

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Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth
-III John verse 2
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God is Jehovah Rapha the God who heals- so He does not cause sickness. AMEN
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Good post. Now, when I have time, I will provide the comprehensive list of the opposite. The bible lists both.
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Good post. Now, when I have time, I will provide the comprehensive list of the opposite. The bible lists both.
Not really. The only thing the Bible promises for the obedient believer [with regard to their physical well-being] is to be healed and whole. Jim, I could go on and on and on and on with others which do not say "heal" or "sickness" or "disease".

What about "no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" ?

What about "if ye ask anything in my name I will do it" ?

What about "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever"?

What about "it will be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth" ?

Jim, if you are going to quote the scriptures, do me a favor and begin your own topic please.
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Not really. The only thing the Bible promises for the obedient believer [with regard to their physical well-being] is to be healed and whole. Jim, I could go on and on and on and on with others which do not say "heal" or "sickness" or "disease".

What about "no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" ?

What about "if ye ask anything in my name I will do it" ?

What about "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever"?

What about "it will be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth" ?

Jim, if you are going to quote the scriptures, do me a favor and begin your own topic please.
Jesus healed people to illustrate the healing in the glory to come. But that's not yet realized. If the healing of the atonement were fully realized now, no Christian would ever be sick or die. The atoning work of Christ spiritually transforms us now and will physically transform us in the future. Jesus is God. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Just look at the Old Testament.

I may start a different thread.
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