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Originally Posted by MacFall View Post
Hm, didn't see that before. What if I identify with libertarian principles but not the Libertarian Party?
Then you are probably like me. I'm not sure I can really throw my name in with the party really, but they agree with me on most things.
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Hello, everyone. I'm basically libertarian in the American sense, but I don't call myself that for the same reason some libertarians don't call themselves anarchists: it's full of crazies, cranks and poseurs. I can't stand the Libertarian Party, or the tea party, or any of this policy-wonking that goes on at the Cato Institute. I guess I would be closest to the people at the Mises institute.
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Originally Posted by IntolerantSociopath View Post
I guess I would be closest to the people at the Mises institute.
That would make you an "Austro-libertarian".

I usually don't like political labels either, but with some qualification they can work. For example I can say "I'm a libertarian in the Rothbard-Konkin tradition", and right of the bat it distinguishes me from the "cranks and poseurs" (though I don't know about the crazies, since Rothbard and Konkin were market anarchists, and so obviously they had to be crazy).

But seriously though, it also avoids all the paranoid and ignorant assumptions that people would make if I simply called myself a market anarchist.
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That would make you an "Austro-libertarian".
I don't like that term. Economics is a value-free, there is nothing 'libertarian' about 'Austrian' economics; it's just valid economic science.
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All it means is that one is ethically libertarian and economically Austrian. It doesn't suggest that the two should be conflated. But weren't you referring to your economic beliefs when you mentioned the Mises Institute?
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I'd say I'm much more economically Austrian than ethically libertarian. I certainly don't buy into natural rights or any of that.
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Do you have an ethical system?
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Do you have an ethical system?
I operate according to an ethos and I recognize some kinds of virtu (efficacy) but I don't actually believe there are objective categories of right or wrong.
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In any sense at all, or just in normative terms?
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In any sense at all, or just in normative terms?
Well, there are things that are true or false, but 'morality' is sociobiology, not philosophy.
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