Anyone checked out this site?: reformthelp.org
I'm fully in support of reforming the Libertarian Party to a less radical, less idealistic party.
You can have all the principles you want, but the times they are a-changin and it's going to take more than the words of Thomas Jefferson to get Libertarian candidates elected.
Will the party have to compromise on some issues? Sure. But unless more moderate Libertarians come from the party, no one is going to get elected and so no change will come (not "Obama change"; change in your pocket from tax cuts.)
The uncompromising idealism is part of what attracts me to this party, actually. Compromising on principles and ideas (which can lead to "playing both sides" of issues) is basically what defines current politics and politicians, in my view, and i find that the libertarian party has far less of that behavior than either of the 2 main parties. I think that if we want stuff to happen, like getting rid of the Patriot Act, ending the wars (including Afghanistan), getting the government out of drugs/marriage/stem cells/etc, ending the trend of bailouts and government-spending, and other things, the best chance for all this lies with the libertarian party, precisely because of its strong idealism. Bush's Republican administration didn't do anything for these causes, and Obama's Democrat administration isn't doing anything for them either so far.
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Will the party have to compromise on some issues? Sure.
Thus making the LP #3 on the list of parties that don't really look out for those that elected them.
I have no problem with a moderate candidate, but I'm not big on backing someone I don't really agree with just to get my party in office. At the end of the day we should vote for liberty, not parties.
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Hey, I'm cool with it. Last I posted an "Editorial" on here. I thought I was going to get hung by my thumbs...
Anyhow... greetings to all. It's been a while. Last time I came here, I was a "Left of center" type of a guy. Needless to say, much, and I do mean MUCH has changed.
Anyhow... I'll be lurking.
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Just droppin' by to say hi! Although I'm more of a "small-l libertarian" I was very pleased to see a forum for LP folks.
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If and only if they don't rank equality above individual liberty. And if that's the case, the only socialism they could support would be entirely voluntary... and if it is, I have no problem with that either.
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Hello Libertarians! I am a Republican, but definitely well within the libertarian wing of the party. Issue-by-issue, I am much more in line with the Libertarian Party than the current neoconservative-dominated Republican Pary.
It amazes me how so many Christians zealously/blindly follow the neocons and are two issue voters (traditional marriage and abortion). It amazes me even more how a growing number of young "free-thinking, intellectual" Christians have zealously/blindly gone in the tank with the left-wing/authoritarian/collectivists. I want my freedom to be a Christian and leave my social and fiscal decisions between me and God.
I already have an intro-thread, but I thought I'd introduce myself to the libertarians.
I'm Alice, and I've had an interest in political theory and economics for about five years now. I adopted a 'libertarian' position for both consequentialist and principled reasons. I don't think there is any alternative to a market economy for the rational allocation of scarce resources and no gain to regulation, taxation or socialization. The principled side of it is that I don't think justice is 'merit' or even morality (dep. on what you mean by it), it's the rule 'to each his own' and the presumption of liberty. I am a strong anti-statist, and I am amenable to anarchism but also open to panarchistic and other polycentric alternatives. I think the state/anarchy dichotomy is a false one.
My biggest influences are Robert Nisbet, Ludwig von Mises, John Kekes, Michael Oakeshott, Edmund Burke, Anthony de Jasay, Gerald Gaus, Russell Hardin and David Schmidtz.
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Describe what a "scoialist libertarian" is. Sounds like "jumbo shrimp" or "deafening silence".
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I already have an intro-thread, but I thought I'd introduce myself to the libertarians.
I'm Alice, and I've had an interest in political theory and economics for about five years now. I adopted a 'libertarian' position for both consequentialist and principled reasons. I don't think there is any alternative to a market economy for the rational allocation of scarce resources and no gain to regulation, taxation or socialization. The principled side of it is that I don't think justice is 'merit' or even morality (dep. on what you mean by it), it's the rule 'to each his own' and the presumption of liberty. I am a strong anti-statist, and I am amenable to anarchism but also open to panarchistic and other polycentric alternatives. I think the state/anarchy dichotomy is a false one.
My biggest influences are Robert Nisbet, Ludwig von Mises, John Kekes, Michael Oakeshott, Edmund Burke, Anthony de Jasay, Gerald Gaus, Russell Hardin and David Schmidtz.
I think you will fit it smashingly Alice. I am almost willing to bet that you are also a subscriber to Lew Rockwell's daily column.
Aside from your influences, I enjoying following the contemporary political musings of Dr. Ron Paul and historian Thomas DiLorenzo.
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