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Old 15th February 2009, 04:18 PM
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so your ok with people becoming gay?

and yes feminism is a key factor

men are growing up viewing women as the provider and strength of the family with men being in a more submissive nurturing role

and women are growing up seeing the same thing taking on masculine quality's
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Old 15th February 2009, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by timlamb View Post
No one is more beautiful than when they are serving the Lord in the manner for which He made them. If men do not recognize and marvel at the what God created in the nurturer they are wrong.

However, I have no sympathy for a whining complaining woman. God did not intend that men and woman compete in the workforce. Glorify God in what your are given to do. When anyone complains that they are treated unfairly, it is not God they are glorifying.
I agree and I'm glad you said it

I honestly don't respect women who attempt to control me(and women do try to control...its not just a leadership role)

and yet I have so much respect for those meek, gentle and more submissive type women

warms my heart just thinking about them and I give them the same gentleness right back
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and women don't want a pushover for a man either...they want to feel safe and taken care of

like they have someone they can count on in an emergency

of course I'm not implying that men shouldn't share in housework etc....I have no problem doing dishes, cleaning etc(well I'm single so I have no choice)

but even if I wasn't, I wouldn't feel right sitting back while my wife did everything

I'm not saying I'd be against my wife working, but I would hope that if we had a family that would come first and she would not put our child in a position where he/she could be raised in an unbalanced household so she could pursue a career
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Originally Posted by timlamb View Post
However, I have no sympathy for a whining complaining woman.
Who is whining, who is complaining? And about what exactly?

God did not intend that men and woman compete in the workforce.
The "workforce" as if it were a design of God.

Women worked outside the home and it was never condemned by God.

Acts 16
13On the Sabbath we went outside the city gate to the river, where we expected to find a place of prayer. We sat down and began to speak to the women who had gathered there. 14One of those listening was a woman named Lydia, a dealer in purple cloth from the city of Thyatira, who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul's message. 15When she and the members of her household were baptized, she invited us to her home. "If you consider me a believer in the Lord," she said, "come and stay at my house." And she persuaded us.
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Glorify God in what your are given to do. When anyone complains that they are treated unfairly, it is not God they are glorifying.
Is this suppose to be a justification for mistreatment?
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It's not about choice any more for a lot of families &Abel. I think it's 67% of women have to work in order for the couple to be to afford a house and afford all the things growing children need, which is very expensive.

Deflation was happening for awhile in our economy, but it seems to have leveled out a bit. Inflation is being talked about again.

If we continued in a deflationary environment, I think a lot more women perhaps would have the choice to work or not work, but that is unfortunately a fairytale. Homes would have to come down a lot more for America to go back to a 1 income household. Remember, it's not a choice to work anymore except for about 35% of women. The others have to work... or live where...........................?
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Originally Posted by &Abel View Post
and women don't want a pushover for a man either...they want to feel safe and taken care of

like they have someone they can count on in an emergency

of course I'm not implying that men shouldn't share in housework etc....I have no problem doing dishes, cleaning etc(well I'm single so I have no choice)

but even if I wasn't, I wouldn't feel right sitting back while my wife did everything

I'm not saying I'd be against my wife working, but I would hope that if we had a family that would come first and she would not put our child in a position where he/she could be raised in an unbalanced household so she could pursue a career
Yes, Able, my wife was not soft when I met her. She had been from a broken home and mistreated, and did not need to be taken care of. but, she responded to my kindness and has been very respectrul of my position as man of the house, even though it didn't come easy or naturally. And I thank God that our daughters have benifited from her example of strength and wisdom.
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Originally Posted by &Abel View Post

I honestly don't respect women who attempt to control me(and women do try to control...its not just a leadership role)
I don't like it when anyone tries to control me, or anyone else. It's a spirit that can overtake a man or a woman.

I still try to love them though.
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It's not about choice any more for a lot of families &Abel. I think it's 67% of women have to work in order for the couple to be to afford a house and afford all the things growing children need, which is very expensive.

Deflation was happening for awhile in our economy, but it seems to have leveled out a bit. Inflation is being talked about again.

If we continued in a deflationary environment, I think a lot more women perhaps would have the choice to work or not work, but that is unfortunately a fairytale. Homes would have to come down a lot more for America to go back to a 1 income household. Remember, it's not a choice to work anymore except for about 35% of women. The others have to work... or live where...........................?
But I think he is pointing out the difference between working and being carreer oriented. A working woman can be a beautiful mom and wife. A carreer woman usually has to let something slide. Someone pays for that devotion to work. She hasn't the time to nurture as God intended.
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Originally Posted by &Abel View Post
I agree and I'm glad you said it

I honestly don't respect women who attempt to control me(and women do try to control...its not just a leadership role)

and yet I have so much respect for those meek, gentle and more submissive type women

warms my heart just thinking about them and I give them the same gentleness right back
You don't say where you live, but I've heard Asian women are very quiet and eager to be submissive, but then you could become unequally yoked or you could end up with a bride who wants to turn to Christianity.

Here I am trying to be a matchmaker. lol

Anyhow, have you thought of that? I know some men who prefer to be with Asian women and there is nothing wrong with that.
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