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Old 4th March 2009, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LamorakDesGalis View Post
No doubt Richard the Lionheart wasn't a nice guy - brave, but not nice. The events though sound like events in the 4th crusade.
Richard's brush with the Byzantines came when he and his fleet made a stop in Cyprus before going to the Holy Land. He "helped" put down a pretender to the imperial throne, took a Byzantine bride, and then promptly left her on the island.

Originally Posted by LamorakDesGalis View Post
The crusaders and Venetians against successfully took Constantinople, and this time they sacked the city, killing people and looting. The Venetians took treasures that they still have in their city to this day. The crusaders never made it to the Holy lands - they set themselves up as rulers throughout the empire, over the resentful Byzantines.
The damage to Constantinople was much worse than many secondary sources describe. The fall of the city in 1453 is very interesting, but 1204 was the real death blow to Byzantium. The Palaiologoi did what they could but should have kept the empire at Nicaea. Thomas Madden has speculated that a good part of the city actually burned to the ground in 1204, including libraries full of priceless manuscripts and many churches.
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As a means of recording the passage of time, the 12th century is the period from 1101 to 1200 in accordance with the Julian calendar in the Christian/Common Era. In the history of European culture, this period is considered part of the High Middle Ages and is sometimes called the Age of the Cistercians. In Song Dynasty China an invasion by Jurchens causes a political schism of north and south. The Khmer Empire of Cambodia flourished during this century, while the Fatimids of Egypt were overtaken by the Ayyubid dynasty.

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Renaissance of the 12th century



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1100's

hello hello ..
well from what Ive read and that's mostly stories from the 1100's not so much about Christianity but about life and Christianity was a big part of it..
the towns were centered around a priory with a prior a sub prior and in the region there was the bishop and a archdeacon..
and everything was centered around it very much Catholicism..
but what i have read was a lot of hypocrisy, and deviousness?
lying, and everything was about power much like the rest of times..
To me its such a shame that christians get a bad rap but it was people like this that did it..
thats not what Jesus said at all
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Originally Posted by E.C. View Post
Constantinople hadn't been stabbed in the back by the West yet.
ROFL. You really made me laugh out loud in a good way.
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Originally Posted by JacktheCatholic View Post
Anyone have pictures of Orthodox churches or art from this period with any descriptions?
I can make a photos of a Church, which were founded before that period in Kiev. But it is changed from those times.

Why do you interesting in 12 centure, why not 11 or 13?
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Originally Posted by JacktheCatholic View Post
As the title states "what do we know about Christianity in the 12th century"?
Quite a bit, actually. I've been fascinated by this era for years. Some of the best overarching books I've found that give good information are:

Will Durant's "Story of Civilization" volume 4, "The Age of Faith." Pretty detailed, and includes sections on Judaism and Islam of the time, too. But even if you just focus on the section on Christianity, you'll learn a great deal. It's rather dated, but it's a pretty smooth read, as medieval histories go.

The Story of Civilization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kenneth Latourette, "A History of Christianity", volume 1, "Beginnings to 1500". This one is more modern in tone, though it's still pretty lengthy.

A history of Christianity - Google Books

If you want something a little less involved, the best one-volume history I know is Bruce Shelley's "Church History in Plain Language". I was first introduced to this one through my theology and history class, and it sparked my interest in church history.

Amazon.com: Church History In Plain Language Updated 2nd Edition (9780849938610): Dr. Bruce L. Shelley: Books

And if you want MORE detail, the best scholarly and yet accessible set I can recommend is Jaroslav Pelican's "The Christian Tradition: A History of the Development of Doctrine". Volume 3 deals with years 300 - 1300, which is your time of interest.

Amazon.com: The Christian Tradition: A History of the Development of Doctrine, Vol. 3: The Growth of Medieval Theology (600-1300) (9780226653754): Jaroslav Pelikan: Books

You should be able to find these in your library, through inter-library loan. Or in a used book store.
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