I've found it pretty amazing to read what Jesus said about using faith. He was hardly ever seemingly concerned about people stepping off into presumption (as we tend to be). Rather, he urged people to believe for the impossible to happen. It seems to me that our 21st Century ideas about faith have a great deal of anti-biblical rationalism in them. Jesus, on the other hand, saw a promise of God as something that can be trusted, stood upon, until the end of the world. It seems to me that we spend a great amount of time philosophizing upon the reasons things we prayed for didn't happen. Yet Hebrews 11 talks of a string of people who just kept believing, not even letting death get in ther way. For them and for Jesus, God the Son, faith in a promise was a permanent thing. Believe and keep on believing. I think if we took Jesus' view instead of the echos of unbelief we hear all around us, our lives would be transformed.
I've found it pretty amazing to read what Jesus said about using faith. He was hardly ever seemingly concerned about people stepping off into presumption (as we tend to be). Rather, he urged people to believe for the impossible to happen. It seems to me that our 21st Century ideas about faith have a great deal of anti-biblical rationalism in them. Jesus, on the other hand, saw a promise of God as something that can be trusted, stood upon, until the end of the world. It seems to me that we spend a great amount of time philosophizing upon the reasons things we prayed for didn't happen. Yet Hebrews 11 talks of a string of people who just kept believing, not even letting death get in ther way. For them and for Jesus, God the Son, faith in a promise was a permanent thing. Believe and keep on believing. I think if we took Jesus' view instead of the echos of unbelief we hear all around us, our lives would be transformed.
Excellent excellent post. You are so right. Jesus declared the will of God when He spoke about faith. He said if His word abides in us then we could ask what WE will and HE would do it. Now the average person thinks that they have to qualify this with "if it be His will..." But Jesus did not say that. He said we would ask what WE will. WE WILL.
You see the average person does not see that abiding in Him and allowing His word to abide in us performs this function beforehand. If we have His word abiding in us.. then our will automatically reflects His will. And this fact requires one other very important thing to be true: The word of Christ that is abiding in us must ALREADY contain all the will of God for each of us!
So the average person who rejects the OP as you present it likely does not see Jesus and His word AS IT EXISTS IN THE BIBLE as an authoritative source of God's will. This results in their confusion and lack of knowledge of the will of God and therefore what they can ask for and receive. To them... what Jesus came (and succeeded) to declare to us is still up in the air and still a mystery. They do not see: "I have come that they may have life and it more abundantly" asa declaration of God's will for every one of us.
They do not accept that: "All the promises of God are yes and amen IN HIM" as a declaration of the will of God and a foundation of what we can ask for and believe that we have already received.
We need to understand that Jesus, His words, His presentation as the exact image of the Father, and the gospel are all declarations of the will of God for every one of us!
The are the big YES AND AMEN to all of our spirit birthed requests!
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I've found it pretty amazing to read what Jesus said about using faith. He was hardly ever seemingly concerned about people stepping off into presumption (as we tend to be). Rather, he urged people to believe for the impossible to happen. It seems to me that our 21st Century ideas about faith have a great deal of anti-biblical rationalism in them. Jesus, on the other hand, saw a promise of God as something that can be trusted, stood upon, until the end of the world. It seems to me that we spend a great amount of time philosophizing upon the reasons things we prayed for didn't happen. Yet Hebrews 11 talks of a string of people who just kept believing, not even letting death get in ther way. For them and for Jesus, God the Son, faith in a promise was a permanent thing. Believe and keep on believing. I think if we took Jesus' view instead of the echos of unbelief we hear all around us, our lives would be transformed.
Many churches today would claim Jesus was 'extreme' in His teaching on faith. He taught it plain, blunt and simple. Sadly many today would get very offended at Him and claim He was teaching heresy.
Jesus believed in faith as a very powerful force. He credited faith as being the reason for many successes and lack of faith / little faith / unbelief as being the cause of many failures! Today peopel get offended when a preacher even hints in that direction.
The thing is - surely the church SHOULD be presenting the message in the same way Jesus did? Why do we feel the need to edit and adjust what Jesus taught on faith? Why can we not take it at face value for what He said?
It seems that many today who claim to be disciples of Jesus actually think they know better than Him and water down what He taught about faith to suit their unbelieving thinking!
I beleive that if Jesus was 'extreme' on faith then to truely be His follower we need to take the same position He took - even if it means being classed as 'extreme' by those who refuse to listen to how Jesus taught the issue
Many churches today would claim Jesus was 'extreme' in His teaching on faith. He taught it plain, blunt and simple. Sadly many today would get very offended at Him and claim He was teaching heresy.
Jesus believed in faith as a very powerful force. He credited faith as being the reason for many successes and lack of faith / little faith / unbelief as being the cause of many failures! Today peopel get offended when a preacher even hints in that direction.
The thing is - surely the church SHOULD be presenting the message in the same way Jesus did? Why do we feel the need to edit and adjust what Jesus taught on faith? Why can we not take it at face value for what He said?
It seems that many today who claim to be disciples of Jesus actually think they know better than Him and water down what He taught about faith to suit their unbelieving thinking!
I beleive that if Jesus was 'extreme' on faith then to truely be His follower we need to take the same position He took - even if it means being classed as 'extreme' by those who refuse to listen to how Jesus taught the issue
Many churches today would claim Jesus was 'extreme' in His teaching on faith. He taught it plain, blunt and simple. Sadly many today would get very offended at Him and claim He was teaching heresy.
Jesus believed in faith as a very powerful force. He credited faith as being the reason for many successes and lack of faith / little faith / unbelief as being the cause of many failures! Today peopel get offended when a preacher even hints in that direction.
The thing is - surely the church SHOULD be presenting the message in the same way Jesus did? Why do we feel the need to edit and adjust what Jesus taught on faith? Why can we not take it at face value for what He said?
It seems that many today who claim to be disciples of Jesus actually think they know better than Him and water down what He taught about faith to suit their unbelieving thinking!
I beleive that if Jesus was 'extreme' on faith then to truely be His follower we need to take the same position He took - even if it means being classed as 'extreme' by those who refuse to listen to how Jesus taught the issue
Owen
Praise the Lord.
God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
His word is truth then and now.
Sounds like there are some radical and extreme faith people in here!
From the positive responses to the comments in this post, it sounds like we have some 'radical and extreme' faith people in here! People who are willing to believe what Jesus said about faith and take it as true - even if others think it is extreme!
Praise God! It is good to be in such good company. I like people who beleive the Bible and don;t argue with it!
All things are possible if you only believe,
For God is the God of the impossible,
So all we have to do my friends is only believe,
The Word says with God all things are possible.
So come let us step right into supernatural realms,
For all we need to step right in is only believe,
In all that we do, we need to keep Christ at the helm,
We need to walk in the gift of faith now and only believe.
Let us move right on in leaving the outer courts behind us,
Then through to the Holy of Holies coming face to face with Jesus,
There is so much more for us to discover only believe,
Seek after Jesus and we will enter the heavenly realms to receive.
And the angelic realm will become accessible only believe,
For in the presence of angels there is freedom and liberty,
And with these open heavens we will move on to victory,
The fire of the Holy Spirit will totally engulf us only believe.
We will move into realms of the miraculous like never before,
Moving in full resurrection power for there is still more,
What we have tasted is only the beginning of what we will receive,
For we are about to be revolutionized by ‘agape’ love, only believe.
What men have beheld of the glory of the Lord is only the beginning,
Open wide the gates it’s time for the King of Glory to come right in,
We have only started to waken up; there is so much more, only believe,
For Jesus is coming back for a pure spotless bride, only believe.
Holy Spirit come with your refiner’s fire and purify our hearts,
Increase our longing; increase our desire for Jesus in our hearts,
For we long to be changed and take on his very nature,
We know that there is urgency in this hour for the bride to mature.
So we will press on in to the Secret Holy Places and only believe,
There is more for us to access when we come in faith and only believe,
Heavenly visions and miraculous signs and wonders are at hand,
Our nation is about to be set ablaze as we move in power through this land.
And the Lord is about to set many captives totally free, only believe,
It is time for the prodigals to come running home to Daddy, only believe,
And all your sicknesses and diseases are being healed now, only believe.
For the prayer of faith shall heal the sick, come to Jesus and only believe.
The Lord is jealous for our affections can’t you see he wants intimacy,
It is time for us draw real close, being taken to new levels of intimacy,
For the fullness of Kingdom reality is right at hand, only believe.
Step right into the realm of the supernatural now, only believe.
We are going to be such carriers of the presence of God, only believe,
That people will come asking us “What do we need to be saved?”
People will be even healed by the “Christ in us” as we pass by, only believe,
For it is Christ in us that is the hope of glory, so we need to only believe.
ONLY BELIEVE!
Irene McGough
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