According to the Words of Jesus Christ, His adopted sons are given the power of the Holy Spirit from His own New Man Person Name, and then they are made "His =Jesus Christ's =YHWH come in flesh as Kinsman/Redeemer- Witnesses"..to the uttermost parts of the earth.
So it is not "The Lamb of God," it should be 'God The Lamb'?????????
So it is not "The Lamb of God," it should be 'God The Lamb'?????????
God come in human being flesh of second creation is the Lamb.
"In flesh" of second human being creation, God is the Lamb, and the Lamb is God.
He who is the Lamb is YHWH come in flesh.
He who is come in flesh is YHWH.
He is in human being flesh, and He is YHWH.
YHWH donned the garments of Kinsman to Adam to be the Redeemer of Adam, Himself, to bring us back to "Himself", to YHWH, for the Glory of the Unseen Father to indwell in the regeneration of our bodies into bodies made in His own New Man human being image.
Isaiah 59 says YHWH is the One who looked and saw no "Isyh/man" to bring forth justice for earth and so He, Himself, donned garments of Kinsman to bring forth vengeance.
Kinsman/Redemmer is one word in Hebrew -Ga'al.
YHWH is the Ga'al of Adam, in His New Man creation human being flesh.
He is YHWH the Word, and He is come in human being flesh of second man creation.
He is human, a brother to Adam, and He is God the Word, the second Person in YHWH.
That's just Scripture doctrine, plain and simple.
He who is God the Word did not lay hold/epilambanomaiof the nature or course of angels, but He laid hold/epilambanomaiof the nature of Adam, a human being nature, to come in flesh.
Hbr 2:16 For verily he took not on [him the nature of] angels; but he took on [him] the seed of Abraham. epilambanomai 1) to take in addition, to lay hold of, take possession of, overtake, attain, attain to a) to lay hold of or to seize upon anything with the hands, to take hold of, lay hold of
It is God the Word who is come in flesh, which flesh was prepared new in the womb of a virgin for his "donning" as a garment; He "laid hold of" that human flesh prepared for Him in the womb, to come as our Redeemer/Kinsman.
Job 19:25 For I know [that] my Redeemer/ga'al liveth, and [that] he shall stand at the latter [day] upon the earth:
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his Redeemer/Ga'al the LORD/YHWH of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.
Isa 54:5 For thy Maker [is] thine husband; the LORD/YHWH of hosts [is] his name; and thy Redeemer/Ga'al the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Isa 59:15 Yea, truth faileth; and he [that] departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD/YHWH saw [it], and it displeased him that [there was] no judgment. Isa 59:16 And he saw that [there was] no man/isyh, and wondered that [there was] no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.
Isa 59:17 For He/YHWH put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance [for] clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.
Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord/YHWH.
Isa 59:20 And the Redeemer/Ga'al shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he [was] clothed with a vesture/Garment dipped/Baptized in blood/Death:
and his name is called The Word of God.
Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jhn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
N.W.T. Matthew 21:9 (Also see Matt 23:39; Mark 11:9; John 13:35; John 12:13) As for the crowds, those going ahead of him and those following kept crying out: “Save, we pray, the Son of David! Blessed is he that comes in Jehovah’s name! Save him, we pray, in the heights above!” is a direct quote from Psalm 118:26 "Blessed be the One coming in the name of Jehovah; We have blessed YOU people out of the house of Jehovah."
Jesus states at John 7:28-29 "Therefore Jesus cried out as he was teaching in the temple and said: “YOU both know me and know where I am from. Also, I have not come of my own initiative, but he that sent me is real, and YOU do not know him. 29 I know him, because I am a representative from him, and that One sent me forth.”
In this verse from John 7:29 Jesus Christ came as a "representative" from and for Almighty God, thus as further quoted above he is representing at the order of Jehovah as was acknowledged by the Israelites when he rode into Jerusalem on a Colt as the crowds that welcomed him in the name of the God where crying out about him as fulfilling Psalm 118:26 (see above) as he was representing for his and their God and Father (John 20:17) "Jehovah". Jesus also applied the same scripture to himself when at Matthew 23:39 he said "For I say to YOU, YOU will by no means see me from henceforth until YOU say, ‘Blessed is he that comes in Jehovah’s name!’"”
So Jesus was not representing Himself as Almighty God but came on the behalf of his Father or in his NAME, thus Jesus Christ was the Greatest Jehovah's Witness this Earth will ever see, as it states of the Israelite Nation of which Jesus was a member at Isaiah 43:10 “"YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none." Thus Jesus proved this without any doubt to those having the True faith.
The following is quote on Psalm 118:26 is taken from 'The Psalms Translated and Explained' by Joseph Addison Alexander, DD. Evangelical Press 1975 page 480:-
"Blessed he that cometh in the name of Jehovah! We bless you from the house of Jehovah. According to the accents, the construction of the first clause is, blessed, in the name of Jehovah,be he that cometh. This agrees exactly with the frequent mention of blessing in the name of Jehovah. See below, Ps. cxxix. 8, and compare Num. vi. 27, Deut. xxi. 5, 2 Sam. vi. 18. He thatcometh is commonly and not improbably supposed to have meant primarily the people or their representatives, to whom, as they approach the sacred spot, these words could hardly fail to suggest, for example that of Israel coming back to from exile, that of God coming back to his forsaken people, and at least in the most enlightened minds, that of the great Delierver, to whose coming all the rest was preparatory, to whom the name tcv or o excomenoV was afterwards given as a standing application, in allusion either to this passage or to Mal. iii. 1, or to both, and to whom this very sentence was applied by the multitude who witnessed and attended Christ triumphal entrance into the Holy City. See Matt. xxi. 9."
In light of the above we can ask a very relevant question in connection with the rendering of Matthew 21:9 in the N.I.V. and K.J.V. along with other versions of the scriptures. As they render this verse thus (in part):-
N.I.V. "... "Hosanna to the Son of David!" "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!" "Hosanna in the hights above!"
K.J.V." "... "Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he who cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest."-Scofield
As the N.I.V. and K.J.V. says that Jesus -"the Son of David"- "comes in the NAME of the Lord" which Lord is being spoken of and what is his name? It cannot be talking about The Lord Jesus Christ as there is another person is being refereed to, so who is this other Lord? This other unnamed person can only be the God of the Hebrews as this is a quote from Psalm 118:26 where Jehovah is the "Lord" identified by NAME in the Hebrew Bible (O.T.), thus the more accurate rendering in the N.W.T. thus "Blessed be the One coming in the name of Jehovah" as Jesus came not with his own power but with power and authority that was given to him by his God (See Matthew 28:18) to do what he did with all the important issues that involved God's relationship with humans!
Does anybody here understand that a branch is the exact same thing as the tree?
Does anybody here understand that an arm is only one part of a whole body?
Does anybody here understand that Christ come in flesh is "THE BRANCH", and "THE ARM", of the ONE and SAME YHWH who exists in three Persons?
Denying the Deity of "the BRANCH of YHWH" -"Christ come in flesh" is blasphemy.
Originally Posted by yeshuasavedme
God come in human being flesh of second creation is the Lamb.
"In flesh" of second human being creation, God is the Lamb, and the Lamb is God.
He who is the Lamb is YHWH come in flesh.
He who is come in flesh is YHWH.
He is in human being flesh, and He is YHWH.
YHWH donned the garments of Kinsman to Adam to be the Redeemer of Adam, Himself, to bring us back to "Himself", to YHWH, for the Glory of the Unseen Father to indwell in the regeneration of our bodies into bodies made in His own New Man human being image.
Isaiah 59 says YHWH is the One who looked and saw no "Isyh/man" to bring forth justice for earth and so He, Himself, donned garments of Kinsman to bring forth vengeance.
Kinsman/Redemmer is one word in Hebrew -Ga'al.
YHWH is the Ga'al of Adam, in His New Man creation human being flesh.
He is YHWH the Word, and He is come in human being flesh of second man creation.
He is human, a brother to Adam, and He is God the Word, the second Person in YHWH.
That's just Scripture doctrine, plain and simple.
He who is God the Word did not lay hold/epilambanomaiof the nature or course of angels, but He laid hold/epilambanomaiof the nature of Adam, a human being nature, to come in flesh.
Hbr 2:16 For verily he took not on [him the nature of] angels; but he took on [him] the seed of Abraham. epilambanomai 1) to take in addition, to lay hold of, take possession of, overtake, attain, attain to a) to lay hold of or to seize upon anything with the hands, to take hold of, lay hold of
It is God the Word who is come in flesh, which flesh was prepared new in the womb of a virgin for his "donning" as a garment; He "laid hold of" that human flesh prepared for Him in the womb, to come as our Redeemer/Kinsman.
Job 19:25 For I know [that] my Redeemer/ga'al liveth, and [that] he shall stand at the latter [day] upon the earth:
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his Redeemer/Ga'al the LORD/YHWH of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.
Isa 54:5 For thy Maker [is] thine husband; the LORD/YHWH of hosts [is] his name; and thy Redeemer/Ga'al the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Isa 59:15 Yea, truth faileth; and he [that] departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD/YHWH saw [it], and it displeased him that [there was] no judgment. Isa 59:16 And he saw that [there was] no man/isyh, and wondered that [there was] no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.
Isa 59:17 For He/YHWH put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance [for] clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.
Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord/YHWH.
Isa 59:20 And the Redeemer/Ga'al shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he [was] clothed with a vesture/Garment dipped/Baptized in blood/Death:
and his name is called The Word of God.
Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jhn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Does anybody here understand that a branch is the exact same thing as the tree?
A branch of a tree is part of a tree, not a tree.
Originally Posted by ysm
Does anybody here understand that an arm is only one part of a whole body?
An arm is part of a body, just as a branch is part of a tree. an arm isn't a body and a branch isn't a tree.
Originally Posted by ysm
Does anybody here understand that Christ come in flesh is "THE BRANCH", and "THE ARM", of the ONE and SAME YHWH who exists in three Persons?
If YHWH exists IN 3 persons, then he isn't the 3 persons he exists in, If you mean YHWH is t3 persons, then you should say what you mean not what you don't mean. See words have meanings and IN doesn't mean IS. If we choose to ingore the meaning of words then ones' ability to communicate bogs down to nothing.
Originally Posted by YSM
Denying the Deity of "the BRANCH of YHWH" -"Christ come in flesh" is blasphemy.
giod never said "Denying the deity of "the Branch of YHWH is blasphemy". So it isn't blasphemy if God didnt' say it is. Which he didn't. What God said is that denying that Jesus is come in the flesh is blasphemy, and I believe that, which god said, not that which you said. God also didn't say that one has to understand to the nth degree what Jesus is come in the flesh means . To me it means Jesus came as a man. That's the understanding I get from the logical brain that god gave me to work with, He didn't give me your brtain to understand his word with, which is why i don't believe 3 is one. or 3 billion adams are one adam. Or that YHWH is Jesus, is the son of god, is god the son, is a person of God, is 1/3 of YHWH, isn't 1/3 of YHWH, is a man, is god. is a spirit, is a man of soul body and human spirit.. I have and use a logical brain that g od fgave me to work with, if on judgement day he says, "why didn't you make nonsense out of scripture like most all other christians do?" I feel I will be justified in saying, "Hey i just interpreted your word with the logical brain you gave me, and tried my best in every way possible to make sense out of what you said. I believed in your word not in their doctrines. I rejected every doctrine that didn't line up with Your Word YHWH with the logical brain you gave me. If you wanted me to interpret your word illogically , wby didn't you give me an illogical brain to work with? I'm sure that is a more than reasonable defense.
In these places of scripture, where Christ is called a Branch, we are to understand his human nature is intended; and this according to the judgment of divers expositors. "In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David;" Jeremiah 33:15, "And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:" Isaiah 11:1. And this is according to the apostle, where he mentions, that God sware unto David, "Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;" Acts 2:30. "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
__________________ God is a spirit (jn 4:24)........... God is not a man...(Nu 23:19) A spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me (Jesus) have (Lu 24:39).....the man Christ Jesus 1 ti 2:5
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Does anybody here understand that a branch is the exact same thing as the tree?
Does anybody here understand that an arm is only one part of a whole body?
Does anybody here understand that Christ come in flesh is "THE BRANCH", and "THE ARM", of the ONE and SAME YHWH who exists in three Persons?
Denying the Deity of "the BRANCH of YHWH" -"Christ come in flesh" is blasphemy.
What Jesus said is more important than what you say above when he said:-
Matthew 4:10 Go away, Satan! For it is written, It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.". . .
Luke 4:8 Jesus said to him: "It is written, It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service."
John 4:23 Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him.
Who is "The Father"?:-
Psalm 2:7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah; He has said to me: "You are my son; I, today, I have become your father.