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3rd February 2009, 04:52 PM
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Reps: 1,681,848,744,982,533,888 (power: 1,681,848,744,982,554) | | | Anti-catholic; an emotion laden term meant to incite.
I've been called an anti-catholic more times on here than I care to mention, what I find troublesome about this whole labeling is that it incites an emotion within people, it is true I deny that Rome teaches a saving gospel because of their view/teaching of justification and I am not afraid to drive that home, question is; does this in itself make me an anti-catholic? truth is I am defending MY faith... if thats the case then I may as well be called an;anti-nontrinitarian, anti-mormon, anti-osteen, anti-arminian, anti-JW, anti-exchanged life, anti-episcopalian,anti-emergent, anti-universalist, anti-well you get the idea...I debate with everyone of these other apologists and have never been called anti-anyofthem.
While I am more active debating against catholics than most of the others i've had no shortage of debating the others on here, it is just by pure numbers that the catholicism debate seems to surge to the top.
My whole point of this thread is why isnt the label anti-catholic considered a flame? You don't see us reformed apologists calling others anti-reformists.
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3rd February 2009, 04:57 PM
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Reps: 2,656,829,312,008,150 (power: 2,656,829,312,017) | | Originally Posted by simonthezealot  I've been called an anti-catholic more times on here than I care to mention, what I find troublesome about this whole labeling is that it incites an emotion within people, it is true I deny that Rome teaches a saving gospel because of their view/teaching of justification and I am not afraid to drive that home, question is; does this in itself make me an anti-catholic? truth is I am defending MY faith... if thats the case then I may as well be called an;anti-nontrinitarian, anti-mormon, anti-osteen, anti-arminian, anti-JW, anti-exchanged life, anti-episcopalian,anti-emergent, anti-universalist, anti-well you get the idea...I debate with everyone of these other apologists and have never been called anti-anyofthem.
While I am more active debating against catholics than most of the others i've had no shortage of debating the others on here, it is just by pure numbers that the catholicism debate seems to surge to the top.
My whole point of this thread is why isnt the label anti-catholic considered a flame? You don't see us reformed apologists calling others anti-reformists.
It's true. Simon and I are very similar in belief and we've locked horns on at least the two underscored issues above more than once. But I don't consider him anti . . . just wrong. 
It would be good to lose the emotional stigma in order to have a more productive discussion about our variances of belief. I guess we can't help getting emotionally involved when we feel it really deeply.
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Perhaps everyone who is labeled as "anti-catholic" shouldn't be, the instant kneejerk reaction is to label anyone who challenges or disagrees with Roman Catholic theology.
However, our Catholic brothers and sisters DO endure a great deal of name calling, vitriolic filth, and outright lies.
I'm saddened by it, both for the fact that they shouldn't have to deal with it as such, but because it also renders any discussion with disagreement unproductive right from the get go.
I've been called anti-catholic enough times myself.
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What did you mean by that?
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3rd February 2009, 05:09 PM
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What did you mean by that?
What was meant by that is for people to come out of false teaching, and seek the LORD.
I doubt you'll ever find me referring to Catholocism as the Whore of Babylon because personally I believe it is not the case, while I can understand why in the first 400 years after the reformation it was the overwhelming belief of reformists, I wouldn't be so confident as that.
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3rd February 2009, 05:11 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,878) | | Originally Posted by tadoflamb A little while back you had a signature that read, "come out of her my people".
What did you mean by that?
Hi tado. I had that in my siggy at one time and it got me banned 
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3rd February 2009, 05:17 PM
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Reps: 385,917,525,656,748 (power: 385,917,525,664) | | | I don't see questioning something to be anti...I live in a large Catholic area..People see
members of a church doing things moreso than other churches they question practices they see...Nothing anti about it..I think we are into a time to test everything by the plumbline of scripture..
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3rd February 2009, 05:19 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,878) | | Originally Posted by namericanboy I don't see questioning something to be anti...I live in a large Catholic area..People see
members of a church doing things moreso than other churches they question practices they see...Nothing anti about it..I think we are into a time to test everything by the plumbline of scripture..
Agree. But different Christians view Scriptures different ways and that can cause problems also I think.
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3rd February 2009, 05:21 PM
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Reps: 1,681,848,744,982,533,888 (power: 1,681,848,744,982,554) | | | The other thing i'd like to say in addition to it being an emotion laden label, it also implies a lack of acknowledgement/respect for MY theology...For example instead of defining me by my theology ie. reformed apologist someone who labels me anti-catholic is defining me by their theology...It is demeaning in that sense as well...kinda like being called a seperated brethren.
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3rd February 2009, 05:29 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,878) | | | I feel I got to rephrase one of my posts. I wasn't banned for the use of the "come out of them/her" verses though I was asked to remove it.
It was because I used it in a post in response to another poster and at the time I was pretty much labeled a "viral anti-Catholic".
But that is water under the bridge and I harbor no ill will towards those that thought about me that way.
I can be against a Theology/Doctrine/Dogma and not against the person or denomination itself.
I am striving to fit into GT as I do not consider myself a RC or Protestant, just a simple humble Christian disciple in Jesus my Lord. Peace to all....
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