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6th March 2009, 03:49 AM
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My Mood  | | Originally Posted by Carey  But even more sobering is the fact that those Christians who promote a Palestinian State have placed themselves in alliance against God’s providential designs for Israel. (Psalm 83:5).
I hereby demand you produce this God of yours and let him declare to all mankind that which you claim as your land. Failure to do so proves the following:
1: God does not exist.
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2: God has forsaken you and thus Israel does not have his approval and should immediately cease to exist or suffer the wrath of God.
Any documents not signed by God or any documents purporting to be God's must be verified by God himself.
Should you fail to provide me with the above; I shall openly and without reservation declare the State of Israel as an illegal entity and one that has committed crimes against humanity.
I am willing however to settle out of court (something I highly doubt you are able to do, because your system is based on principles detrimental to peace).
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6th March 2009, 06:54 AM
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This whole argument makes no sense. Religion, and ethnicity have nothing to do with being entitled to live where you were born. Your ancestors Carey were from thousands of miles from where you live. Pretty much nobody from the UK originates from the UK - we have been invaded so many times.
You can't create peace by deciding that a whole bunch of people don't matter and can be shuffled off like cattle to somewhere else. Because they won't stay there and why should they.
If you really want a peacefull solution, which I doubt, then you need to find one which incorporates some level of compassion for all of the people involved.
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Originally Posted by ScottishJohn This whole argument makes no sense. Religion, and ethnicity have nothing to do with being entitled to live where you were born. Your ancestors Carey were from thousands of miles from where you live. Pretty much nobody from the UK originates from the UK - we have been invaded so many times.
You can't create peace by deciding that a whole bunch of people don't matter and can be shuffled off like cattle to somewhere else. Because they won't stay there and why should they.
If you really want a peacefull solution, which I doubt, then you need to find one which incorporates some level of compassion for all of the people involved.
Do you think our compassion in endiing world war 2 has proven benficial to the Japanese people by looking at Japan today??
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Reps: 308,806,707,732,847 (power: 308,806,707,746) | | Originally Posted by Carey Do you think our compassion in endiing world war 2 has proven benficial to the Japanese people by looking at Japan today??
If you think dropping a bomb on Israel would help then go for it. I would like to point out however that as usual you are demonstrating your inability to construct a competent argument by comparing a war between the armies of several industrialised nations seperated by thousands of miles with a 60 year struggle between two groups of people trying to live on the same small patch of land. Difficult to nuke either the Israelis or the Palestinians without hitting both.
Like I said before, I don't really think you're that interested in a peacefull solution.
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Originally Posted by ScottishJohn If you think dropping a bomb on Israel would help then go for it. I would like to point out however that as usual you are demonstrating your inability to construct a competent argument by comparing a war between the armies of several industrialised nations seperated by thousands of miles with a 60 year struggle between two groups of people trying to live on the same small patch of land. Difficult to nuke either the Israelis or the Palestinians without hitting both.
Like I said before, I don't really think you're that interested in a peacefull solution.
As usual you missed the point.
The point was overwhelming force ended a conflict in ww2 and the same would end the conflict with the occupying palestinians .
Nuke not necessary, Israel needs to crush the resistence. Then peace could come.
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My Mood | | Originally Posted by Carey As usual you missed the point.
The point was overwhelming force ended a conflict in ww2 and the same would end the conflict with the occupying palestinians .
Nuke not necessary, Israel needs to crush the resistence. Then peace could come.
WW2 could have been avoided totally if the Allies had not punished Germany for WW1. After WW2 Germany and Japan was not only not punished but was helped economically; thus removing any reasons for hate and re conflagration. Prevention is better than the cure. |
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Originally Posted by tanzanos WW2 could have been avoided totally if the Allies had not punished Germany for WW1. After WW2 Germany and Japan was not only not punished but was helped economically; thus removing any reasons for hate and re conflagration. Prevention is better than the cure.
Too late to prevent the spread of Islam just like it got too late to prevent the spread of naziism.
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Reps: 3,494,425,949 (power: 3,494,429) | | Merely quoting an article does not make that article factual. There is no link between the philistines and the Palestinians. The philistines were Phoenicians, the Palestinians are Arabs,
There is no link between the Israelis and the ancient Israelites, either. |
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My Mood | | Originally Posted by Carey Too late to prevent the spread of Islam just like it got too late to prevent the spread of naziism.
But you are an advocate of Nazism. At least you seem to be when you openly support the apartheid regimes of SA.
Also it is too late to stop the spread of Christianity! | | |
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