The population to which it belongs changes over time.
Sorry, but no population can do what no member of that population can do. For example, if no male and female giraffe can breed humans descendants, then populations of giraffes certainly can't breed human descendants!
So the first step evolutionists need to take is describe the common ancestor so we know what kind of descendants his species is capable of producing in the first place before they can even continue with their story. Then the next step is to show that it's even possible for the male and female of that species to breed humans descendants before they can even talk about populations.
Sorry, but no population can do what no member of that population can do. For example, if no male and female giraffe can breed humans descendants, then populations of giraffes certainly can't breed human descendants!
So the first step evolutionists need to take is describe the common ancestor so we know what kind of descendants his species is capable of producing in the first place before they can even continue with their story. Then the next step is to show that it's even possible for the male and female of that species to breed humans descendants before they can even talk about populations.
Not. Linear.
Nested. Tree. Model.
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Sorry, but no population can do what no member of that population can do. For example, if no male and female giraffe can breed humans descendants, then populations of giraffes certainly can't breed human descendants!
So the first step evolutionists need to take is describe the common ancestor so we know what kind of descendants his species is capable of producing in the first place before they can even continue with their story. Then the next step is to show that it's even possible for the male and female of that species to breed humans descendants before they can even talk about populations.
Question 1 Do you know the difference between breeding hybrids and cladistic speciation? You say a lot about who can't breed what, but most evolutionary change involves speciation not hybridization. So can you describe what speciation is and how it happens? Shouldn't be too difficult. Scientists regularly observe speciation in their labs.
Question 2 Have you ever heard of asexual reproduction? It's very common actually. With asexual reproduction you don't need to worry about what males and females can do. Along the same line have you ever heard about hermaphroditic species? Individuals in these species are both male and female.
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Question 1 Do you know the difference between breeding hybrids and cladistic speciation? You say a lot about who can't breed what, but most evolutionary change involves speciation not hybridization. So can you describe what speciation is and how it happens? Shouldn't be too difficult. Scientists regularly observe speciation in their labs.
Question 2 Have you ever heard of asexual reproduction? It's very common actually. With asexual reproduction you don't need to worry about what males and females can do. Along the same line have you ever heard about hermaphroditic species? Individuals in these species are both male and female.
Do you seriously expect a more informed response beyond "birds and bees "???
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That says nothing. So please explain how whole populations can do what not even one couple in that population can do? Or is the story of evolution not only based on events that don't happen in reality and that no one in history can verify but also on contradictions as well? It appears so.
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Question 1 Do you know the difference between breeding hybrids and cladistic speciation? You say a lot about who can't breed what, but most evolutionary change involves speciation not hybridization. So can you describe what speciation is and how it happens? Shouldn't be too difficult. Scientists regularly observe speciation in their labs.
Question 2 Have you ever heard of asexual reproduction? It's very common actually. With asexual reproduction you don't need to worry about what males and females can do. Along the same line have you ever heard about hermaphroditic species? Individuals in these species are both male and female.
Sorry but hybrids are almost always infertile or sterile since they depend on the exact parents to breed them. Thus they can't breed any offspring, much less large populations of their own!
So you're free to call yourself an animal if you like. But that can never make apes, monkeys, lizards, elephants, giraffes, or fictitious animals capable of breeding with humans or exchanging genes with humans. So an animal can never pass along his genes to humans nor can his genes change into humans because the human imagination wants them to. So calling a human an animal is a waste of time.
Sorry but hybrids are almost always infertile or sterile since they depend on the exact parents to breed them. Thus they can't breed any offspring, much less large populations of their own!
Depends on the hybrid. If you cross a Persian cat with a Siamese cat, there is no problem with fertility.
But I didn't ask about fertility. I asked if you knew the difference between breeding hybrids and speciation? You did not describe speciation. Can you?
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Sorry but hybrids are almost always infertile or sterile since they depend on the exact parents to breed them. Thus they can't breed any offspring, much less large populations of their own!
So you're free to call yourself an animal if you like. But that can never make apes, monkeys, lizards, elephants, giraffes, or fictitious animals capable of breeding with humans or exchanging genes with humans. So an animal can never pass along his genes to humans nor can his genes change into humans because the human imagination wants them to. So calling a human an animal is a waste of time.
Humans are animals. They are not above or below the rest of life on this planet. Take away microbes and we die.
We are mamals. It does not mean we have to act like animals though, we are capable of great things rooted in love.
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That says nothing. So please explain how whole populations can do what not even one couple in that population can do? Or is the story of evolution not only based on events that don't happen in reality and that no one in history can verify but also on contradictions as well? It appears so.
I believe this comes with a basic understanding of adaptations. Adaptations are when a species becomes better suited to its habitat. For example: Europeans spread disease to Native Americans. Ninety percent of the Native population is wiped out almost immediately, but the immune system of the other ten percent deals with the foreign disease and creates an immunity that is passed down through their genes. It's really quite simple, and it explains a great deal about regional genetic characteristics (such skin color, hair colors, etc.)
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Oh and I'm pulling these percentages out of the air as an example only. Less than ten percent lived through European occupation.
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Or is the story of evolution not only based on events that don't happen in reality and that no one in history can verify but also on contradictions as well? 
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