Meanwhile, the tv preachers that I see who are so "larger than life" [and one with rose colored pants, jacket and vest] who come across as having it all together and are the experts on all things spiritual - they are the ones that I just can't watch. They also tend to be [at least the ones I've seen on tv] the ones who love to shout and holler. I can't listen to that as it brings back memories of my abusive gma. The whole package is a turn off for me.
I'm with you on this. I absolutely despise to the core the majority of the God channel. Knowing the incredible wealth a lot of them derive from this "ministry" is something I despise the most. Personally, I don't believe that at least some of them are actually Christians. To me, they are a bunch of con artists out to make a fast buck. And unfortunately, there are a lot of gullible Christians prepared to part with their money for the promises of heaven, health and wealth, blessings etc. These crooks exploit the naive and play it to the bone.
Furthermore, I cannot stand the way these American televangelists are always screaming and yelling and shouting and ranting. It is a major turn off for me. None of them apparently how to speak in a normal tone of voice. I feel like a naughty school kid being chastised by a teacher when I hear these American televangelists.
I can just imagine most of them laughing all the way to the bank, thinking:
"Hahahaha.........suckers".
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I've never watched any of the Christian channels, but the people I know that do watch them say that the thing that they dislike the most about them is that they constantly tell you to send them your money without really breaking down what that money is used for.
The God channel is a specific channel you can get on UK cable TV with Wendy and Rory Alex.
It doesn't seem to be like those channels asking for cash all the time.
But it IS dispensational, pro-Israel, American in personalities and style, very triumphalistic, apocalyptic, charismatic.
Any opinions on those fat preachers?
I had somebody say well they just have big frames to feed. So why are their stomachs so big?
As someone who does struggle with weight issues, I have to agree with a previous poster who said that usually, the people who are overweight have underlying problems that lead to using food for comfort. In my case, when I was upset because adults in my life would say things that caused my self esteem to sink lower, or I had gone through a change which involved moving to another country and leaving all my high school friends behind, I would become depressed and eat because it made me not feel the pain that I was going through. So, I would have to say that in some cases, being fat is just the 3% of the iceberg that is visible on the surface.
The issue with the God channel preachers doesn't seem to me to be personal pain or low self-esteem.
So what is it? I have noticed that most confident church leaders also seem to have a physical 'presence'.
Any way, do you think the eating thing for these preachers is to do with the fact that
a) eating/taking such hospitality is not 'sinful' like other forms of recreation.
b) the Lord's coming back soon, so it doesn't matter about the environment or resources or even personal health and anyway, i'm going to heaven and it's better to be with the Lord.
c) the whole environmental/foody thing is an end-times, one-world, antichrist conspiracy and it's my way of making a public rejection of it.
There is many a night, out of town, in a hotel room....that Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Jerry Savelle, etc....have spoken some sound doctrine into my life....
and strengthened me for the day to come...
Write down some of your thin observations at 20-30-40 and reread them at 50-60 when you slow down, retire...and grow the wrong way....spending 45 years in front of a computer terminal from 8-5...each day....
If you don't like "God TV" what do you watch.....
the land of the hookers and gold diggers
the church of the nfl
the bimbos and gigalo's of mtv...vh1
the sort of history channel
the sort of discovery channel
the breaking gossip....(news)
the poorly drawn cartoon hour
the I eat creepy things channel...
......or....
I turned off the tube and ministered to the sick, old, and imprisoned...
I work at the bread line or soup kitchen evenings
I actually helped my kids with their home work or listend to my wife..
.......or .....
I can't believe you have more than one tv .....nothing times # sets = nothing to watch....
Unfortunately, at least from my PoV, the vast majority of the preachers on TV are Word of Faith, which I consider at least partly heretical.
There are even some of those that I like (Joyce Meyer, who is often very practical and helpful; Joseph Prince, who is much more into grace than into "prosperity gospel" ...and he's really cute ; Jesse Duplantis, who is funnier than most stand-up comics, etc.), but I listen to them carefully and critically.
But there are some others I won't listen to because they're too far off track: Ken Hagin, Ken Copeland and Creflo Dollar (who all constantly pound on the WoF distinctives to the exclusion of almost everything else), Benny Hinn ("charismaniac"), Rod Parsley (who is far too political), T.D. Jakes and Paula White (non-trinitarian and "prosperity gospel"), and Mike Murdock (who is all about the money), to name a few.
Some exceptions to the WoF domination of Christian TV: Michael Youssef (conservative evangelical Anglican), Charles Stanley and Beth Moore (Southern Baptists), Brian Houston (Assemblies of God), Mark Jeske (WELS Lutheran), Jack Hayford (Foursquare), and a few others I can't think of at the moment. All of those seem sound enough. Perry Stone is sort of a Pentecostal Messianic Jew, and he knows an enormous amount about the OT and ancient Hebrew culture.
IMHO, Christian TV needs much more variety. IFB's, Calvinists, and the mainline churches are all vastly underrepresented. Moderates and liberals have almost no representation at all.
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I like a lot of the programmes on the God channel but not all of them - I'm put off by hyped-up shouting and forceful preaching about worldly success and prosperity. But I'm prepared to support them for their mission and for the brilliant programmes they do show, in content at least, don't always like the flashy presentation, but love the heart of it when it's close to Jesus' heart.
I think the church needs the end-time teaching but not to get so obsessed with specifics, date-setting, and weird and wacky dreams that we get off track in terms of living godly lives. My opinion at this point is that the Bible is more concerned with the 'therefore' i.e. how we live, in the light of what we can know about the end times or more likely 'the age we live in' than that we know what's going on strategically down to the last detail, fascinating though that is.
When it's easier to get into fascinating controversial debates and think I've found the answers than to share God's love with a needy neighbour perhaps I've lost sight of priorities, or perhaps I'm just too much of an intellectual and not enough of a lover of God and people.
As for getting fat, we don't get much teaching on fasting from these huge preachers do we?
I don't mind how thin or fat a preacher is as long as they are genuinely seeking God's kingdom and demonstrating its values and fruit.
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There is many a night, out of town, in a hotel room....that Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Jerry Savelle, etc....have spoken some sound doctrine into my life....
and strengthened me for the day to come...
Write down some of your thin observations at 20-30-40 and reread them at 50-60 when you slow down, retire...and grow the wrong way....spending 45 years in front of a computer terminal from 8-5...each day....
If you don't like "God TV" what do you watch.....
the land of the hookers and gold diggers
the church of the nfl
the bimbos and gigalo's of mtv...vh1
the sort of history channel
the sort of discovery channel
the breaking gossip....(news)
the poorly drawn cartoon hour
the I eat creepy things channel...
......or....
I turned off the tube and ministered to the sick, old, and imprisoned...
I work at the bread line or soup kitchen evenings
I actually helped my kids with their home work or listend to my wife..
.......or .....
I can't believe you have more than one tv .....nothing times # sets = nothing to watch....
My favorite button on the TV is the off switch. I've put people off before - especially at family gatherings - by marching over and switching off the TV and thereby forcing people to engage with the other people in the room.
; Jesse Duplantis, who is funnier than most stand-up comics, etc.), but I listen to them carefully and critically. 
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