God Channel and fat preachers

Child of JC · #11 3rd February 2009, 07:19 PM

I also struggle with loving food. Last year I read "the weigh down diet" by Gwen Shamblin. IT'S GREAT! A must read for anyone who stuggles with food. Right now I'm reading her second book- "Rise Above", a great review.

Christ+a · #12 3rd February 2009, 07:21 PM

yep! i totally agree with you and second what you said!! ref. over-eating is a heart-problem and the books by Gwen Shamblin

God healed me of 30 years of over-eating and i lost 26 lbs in the process!

FREEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

woohoo

Redheadedstepchild · #13 9th February 2009, 11:30 PM

I think people, not just pastors, try to remove what they see as sinful behavior from their lives and end up replacing it with food. They forget all about the sin of gluttony. I think it has to do with the fact that eating in of itself is not an obvious sin. We need food to survive. You can deny yourself all manner of things for a lifetime, but even if you fast regularly at some point you gotta eat.

We don't get the God Channel here so I can't comment on that.

Maid Marie · #14 25th May 2009, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Redheadedstepchild

I think people, not just pastors, try to remove what they see as sinful behavior from their lives and end up replacing it with food. They forget all about the sin of gluttony. I think it has to do with the fact that eating in of itself is not an obvious sin. We need food to survive. You can deny yourself all manner of things for a lifetime, but even if you fast regularly at some point you gotta eat.

We don't get the God Channel here so I can't comment on that.

You can get it on the internet at Welcome to GOD.TV

In my praying for emotional healing the last few years, I have come to realize that so many addictions have a single source ~ the need for inner healing. One addiction isn't any worse than others on the inside [yes, they are worse in consequences on the outside]. By that I mean, one may not be a glutton, alcoholic or a smoker...but have thousands in credit card debt cuz one can't stop spending money. The inner issue is still bad even though one may have a more "holy" addiction of eating and not drinking. The last three years, I trained myself not to eat more than 2000 calories a day....but noticed that my migraines shot up and so did my spending. Or, when I let myself eat all the chocolate I wanted, my migraines went down and so did my spending...but then I gained weight. For me it is not about good training to not be gluttonous, smoker, alcoholic, etc...but daily inviting God into my wounds that cause me to go bezerk in other areas of my life. Currently, my issue is insomnia and time management.

salamacum · #15 25th May 2009, 07:22 AM

I know that maybe it's shallow on my part, but I just can't listen to a guy whose physical presence is so much more than his scriptural exposition or prophetic insight.
I keep thinking about either 1) where is the stewardship of your own body 2) what about the offence to deprived Christians in the poor world 3) worse still, maybe it's the apocalyptic expectation that Jesus is coming soon and therefore anything 'environmental' or 'self-denying' is a distraction.

Dharma Wheel · #16 25th May 2009, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by salamacum

Have you noticed how many preachers (mostly American) are larger-than-life in more ways than one. My own pastor is challenged in this area. My spouse says that it's the hotels, hamburgers and fast food on the preaching circuit.
I think having a head full of end-times scenarios means that reducing consumption, personally and environmentally is not a priority.

Also - why do so many people not like the God Channel? I'm caught in the middle of people who won't talk to each other because of it.

I have noticed this actually. I think they have been eating too much bread and drinking too much wine, personally, but each to his own.

Maid Marie · #17 25th May 2009, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by salamacum

I know that maybe it's shallow on my part, but I just can't listen to a guy whose physical presence is so much more than his scriptural exposition or prophetic insight.
I keep thinking about either 1) where is the stewardship of your own body 2) what about the offence to deprived Christians in the poor world 3) worse still, maybe it's the apocalyptic expectation that Jesus is coming soon and therefore anything 'environmental' or 'self-denying' is a distraction.

I go back and forth on this. My pastor is over weight, too, but I don't mind him. That is because his demeanor is such that he is open and honest about his faults, he doesn't claim to have things all together and will use self deprecating humor. I feel like his is a fellow traveler on the journey.

Meanwhile, the tv preachers that I see who are so "larger than life" [and one with rose colored pants, jacket and vest] who come across as having it all together and are the experts on all things spiritual - they are the ones that I just can't watch. They also tend to be [at least the ones I've seen on tv] the ones who love to shout and holler. I can't listen to that as it brings back memories of my abusive gma. The whole package is a turn off for me.

Redheadedstepchild · #18 25th May 2009, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Maid Marie

so many addictions have a single source ~ the need for inner healing...
it is not about good training to not be gluttonous, smoker, alcoholic, etc...but daily inviting God into my wounds that cause me to go bezerk in other areas of my life....

QFT!

I don't shun anyone or their teaching based on their appearance (frankly, I have no right to do so) but instead I have compassion because they too are in need of inner healing.

Maid Marie · #19 25th May 2009, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Redheadedstepchild

QFT!

Hi Red, what is qft?

Redheadedstepchild · #20 25th May 2009, 08:29 PM

Quoted for truth!