anyway, I truly thank you all for those with kind and encouraging words and God bless you all!
ITS ALL ABOUT LOVE!
Brother.. this is beautiful... this is the real you and this is the right path.. see how much better it feels when you write this.. Read your own words.. you wrote them.. there is hope brother!!
This is where the truth lies.. in beauty.. friendship.. blessing others.. you see if you go to these places and say these things that anger you so where these things you mention are going on.. that really does nothing but spread it around more.. Try being really really nice instead.. LOL..
I like that my name on here is peacechild.. because that is what I do.. try to bring peace.. not because I have all the answers because I don't but because peace is beautiful.. encourages others.. blesses them.. and you know why?? Because God has done the same thing to me.. Did you know there is an awesome scripture that says.. it is the kindness of God that leads us to repentance!! That is why I come to GOD.. because HE is kind.. and loving.. and forgives me..
Kindness.... leads us to know GOD.. where there is strife and confusion there is every evil thing.. Kindness is of GOD.. gentleness.. peace.. love... joy.. all those kinds of things..
This where GODS SPIRIT resides.. You are so right.. it is all about LOVE!!
GOD is love.. HIS goodness is just amazing.. you can soak in it all day.. and the joy of the LORD is always with us.. I can feel it even sometimes when I am crying.. and then it makes me laugh.. and I am not afraid..
((Hugs)) I know you are getting there brother.. it is all there... just waiting for you.. the peace that will flood your soul... will change your life forever..
First off can you tell me how old you are, male or female, what religion you are/were involved with, and what country you live in. I did send you a PM.
I answer some of your questions, yes I have been through many deliverance type things. where I would renounce lies practices habits what I was involved in etc. and I have affirmed truth over and over..in fact I hve done this for years..I have come to the conclusion that pretty much ill never be free if i keep looking to what lies or what I did what I was involved in etc. I think I asked you before if you have read any of Neil Anderson’s books on healing?
I have done this till I was blue in my face. Yes i Believe that to be true.we need to renounce certain practices and lies in our life..however not what I was taught and shown, its just another tool Satan uses to keep people looking at themselves and keeping them from any joy in their life, heck its like legalism, renounce this, cant be apart of that etc etc..no freaking joy in life, when ya keep worrying about what is witchcraft and of the devil..been there done that.. Mate, the sad thing is that many so-called deliverance ministries do more damage than good, and set themselves up with a lot of rituals, and rely on “magick”, and not the Holy Spirit.
Look, the best way I can say it is like this, the whole Christianity thing I was involved with, the believers the church, I just feel like I was involved in a cult, with false teachings and doctrines, I feel brainwashed to think and feel this way about God and His word, yet the fruit of it..just causes me confusion and death, and i know intill my heart can see what is true and what is a lie from all of this junk, then I know I am going to struggle Again, the sad thing is that most churches are SELF and teach half-truths, and half-gospels. This is the last days of perilous times.
Yes, your heart is the answer to your struggles. Christians are not taught how to transform and renew their minds (brain and heart) when they are born-again, and they still stay conformed to the world.
To overcome and conquer your struggles you need good foundation in His Word, and not some watered-down version. And you won’t get that until you go to a church that tends and feeds HIS lambs and sheep. They are very hard to find!
If I knew where you lived, then I could possibly put you in touch with a true-blue believer.
BUT from this all, this experience this brainwashing or whatever, I am not sure if what I was taught was true, All I know is that I lost all desire to be with God, to follow Him or love Him..cause I dont want too in all true..freaking hate Christianity and what it represents.. Mate, we don’t want you to feel this way either, and there is a solution to your struggles, but there is no “quick fix”, but hard work.
I am willing to help you the best way that I can, if you are prepared to listen and to speak to me.
The reason I come back here, is maybe that deep feeling that I have in me, that shows me all this cool stuff in nature and what it means to be human, this small thing inside me that I could never see from God, because all I learned and what God was and is..Maybe that small part is of God, and that I want, yet intill I see that is of God truly, I will struggle. Mate, I’ve been there the same as you, and I still struggle with many things, but my faith is strong and I keep fighting a good fight of faith, but the world keeps on creeping in and making my life at times unbearable.
This is the life of a true believer. It’s a hard road being a believer, the path is narrow and there are many wide gates on the way, beckoning and tempting us.
We can overcome and conquer this when we begin to heal. You need healing mate, not deliverance. Your heart and soul is so full of offence, hurt, resentfulness, anger, and bitterness, how else can you feel when this is buried deep down in your heart.
Inner healing is about healing the broken-heart, and letting go.
that small part is what I keep coming here, cause maybe it is true. I doubt cause I never see it amongst my own brethren, and I am fed up with legalism and laws and rules that put people back into bondage, fed up with fear the torement Christianity brings int he name of God, its like everyone thinkgs they are God's right hand man words from God themselves, Yes we can be that, but peopel need to realize maybe they are not so high and mighty that maybe their words are NOT from The Lord, which spirit is it from? Mate, as I don’t know what religion you belong to, then it’s hard to establish the abuse that you have been through.
There are many false Christians who walk around in a form of godliness.
I know in the future I will post threads on this forum freaking telling people how they hurting others in the name of God. SOMETIMES YOU DO MORE HARM THEN GOOD! Mate, forgiveness heals all wounds, but until all the other stuff in your soul that is causing you all of this torment is healed and dealt with, then you will continue to struggle with SELF and THEM!
The most simplest action for a Christian is to not let the sun set on anger, and when they confess and repent their sin of anger before going to bed, then the next day will be a lot better.
But, as sad as it is, all that anger from our past still festers on our heart deep down, and only springs up when something happens to switches on that emotional hurt and offence and we spit our dummy, and kick the dog.
others may say well you could offend people, its not what they believe. WELL SORRY! I DONT KNOW THE TRUTH BUT I CAN SEE YOU DONT EITHER! maybe I should step on some toes and stand up to hypocrites who think their words are life, but really came from the devil himself. Mate, we do stand up to hypocrites, but we don’t smack them in the mouth with our fist.
We are supposed to be patient and self-controlled.
sigh, some believers need to be slapped. ITS ALL ABOUT LOVE! GET IT!! not hidden words, nor formula, no saying God wants good for us BUT..BUT there he could use pain or hurt you for His glory..who believes that twisted crap Mate, we forgive and love one another, but at the same time we forgive and love ourself as well. Do you love yourself? Because HE said to love one another as you love yourself!
anyway, All I ask is not to be judged or condemned with nice twisted words that sound like love and grace.. Mate, if you want help, then speak to me.
anyway, I truly thank you all for those with kind and encouraging words and God bless you all! Bless you in Jesus’ Name.
I am Christian, that should be obvious..or in othe words..a son of God
I am very leary in what I believe these days, because alot of people teach different things..though all seem to be different..
its not as easy as people seem to say to do certain things..read the word..etc etc..all I can say is you have to see through my eyes..unless you can do that..then its hard to say certain things..its not really kind sometimes to say to certain people.oh I know feel.because you really dont..nor seen through my eyes..its not a challenge to see who has been through more or of hard times..
All I want is freedom. not some freaking rules or laws..formulas for stuff..I do need healing...I live in a small town..I know where the churches are..i been to two of them..they scare me..so I dont go...cause when I went..one scared me..other didnt really have life there..so I am waiting and hoping that this fall, if I go to school in a city, I can go to a place that is good
I answer some of your questions, yes I have been through many deliverance type things. where I would renounce lies practices habits what I was involved in etc. and I have affirmed truth over and over..in fact I hve done this for years..I have come to the conclusion that pretty much ill never be free if i keep looking to what lies or what I did what I was involved in etc. I have done this till I was blue in my face. Yes i Believe that to be true.we need to renounce certain practices and lies in our life..however not what I was taught and shown, its just another tool Satan uses to keep people looking at themselves and keeping them from any joy in their life, heck its like legalism, renounce this, cant be apart of that etc etc..no freaking joy in life, when ya keep worrying about what is witchcraft and of the devil..been there done that..
I understand how legalism hurts,rules , and more rules.People need love and mercy and confidence that they are precious and cared about by God and His people in order to heal.They need mercy.Some of Jesus heart attitude toward those who are broken and bruised .Mathew 11 people like you and me need to keep our eyes on Jesus and His nature and His promises.We wont find condemnation from Jesus nor ,heavy burdens we cannot bear,neither Judgement,instead we will find healing and freedom.Jesus longs to take us under His wings,therefore He has been an example to us of His heart nature and His promises.Jesus is full of mercy and longs for His children to also show mercy.He longs for us to trust Him and get to know Him.Jesus said blesed are the mercyful for they shall obtain mercy.
28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light
Isaiah ch61 verse one
The Spirit of the Lord GOD isuponme; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Luke ch 4 18The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Isaiah ch 42 verse 3A bruisedreed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall
Isaiah 5715For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. 16For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.
Look, the best way I can say it is like this, the whole Christianity thing I was involved with, the believers the church, I just feel like I was involved in a cult, with false teachings and doctrines, I feel brainwashed to think and feel this way about God and His word, yet the fruit of it..just causes me confusion and death, and i know intill my heart can see what is true and what is a lie from all of this junk, then I know I am going to struggle
It is very painful to be brainwashed that Jesus is not trustworthy ,that His burdens are not light,that He does not offer mercy and forgiveness and healing and rest.To be brainwashed that He is too hard to understand and that He is going to hurt us.When what He wants for us good. He said I know my plans for you ,to give you a hope and a future and not to do you harm.We can trust Him
BUT from this all, this experience this brainwashing or whatever, I am not sure if what I was taught was true, All I know is that I lost all desire to be with God, to follow Him or love Him..cause I dont want too in all true..freaking hate Christianity and what it represents..The reason I come back here, is maybe that deep feeling that I have in me, that shows me all this cool stuff in nature and what it means to be human, this small thing inside me that I could never see from God, because all I learned and what God was and is..Maybe that small part is of God, and that I want, yet intill I see that is of God truly, I will struggle.
Due to brainwashing and judgement and false teaching,you lost all desire to to be with God? Or did you lose desire to be with a God you were taught was out to hurt you and confuse you and cause you torment.A God you could not trust who was full of legalism and heavy burdens and bondage.This is not God's real nature.The verses above are God's real nature ,to bind up and heal,to give freedom,to offer protection and mercy and forgiveness.To take us under His wings.This is the real God ,who washes us clean with His blood ,who longs to have a relationship with us. That feeling inside you,that deep feeling ,is a longing to know the real protective loving and trust worthy God who will take you under His wings and care for you and protect you and forgive you , who died for you, that is safe and merciful, yes that cool stuff in nature was created by God ,is reveals to us part of His nature .a beautiful God full of tenderness and wonder and power and kindness.God is showing you who He is.This helps us trust Him and come to Him.
that small part is what I keep coming here, cause maybe it is true. I doubt cause I never see it amongst my own brethren, and I am fed up with legalism and laws and rules that put people back into bondage, fed up with fear the torement Christianity brings int he name of God, its like everyone thinkgs they are God's right hand man words from God themselves, Yes we can be that, but peopel need to realize maybe they are not so high and mighty that maybe their words are NOT from The Lord, which spirit is it from?
It is sad that so many christians are full of judgement and legalism and scare people and yes lead them into bondage,Some of them are confused and mixed up and have been trained wrong themselves.Many christians do not understand mercy and grace and compassion.They are human and make mistakes and follow what they were taught which is why we need to study the nature and promises of Jesus .Much of His nature is taught in mathew and John and isaiah ch 53.It can help us renew our minds.Yes many christians think they have it all together and have all the rules and answers,but they seem to lack love and compassion and mercy and patience.There are some christians though who are truly loving and caring and patient and merciful.Sometimes they are hard to find.The letter of the law killeth but the Spirit brings life.Jesus is the stumbling stone they seem to be stumbling over,mery and grace.Jesus said whosoever puts his trust In Jesus shall not be ashamed.
I know in the future I will post threads on this forum freaking telling people how they hurting others in the name of God. SOMETIMES YOU DO MORE HARM THEN GOOD!
The bible says if we see a brother erring or in a fault to go to them in a spirit of love and meekness ,making sure we do not stumble also and restore them and pray for them in love.Yes many christians do need to know when they are further hurting those people they have fooled themselves into thinking are helping.When infact they are not showing mercy and compassion.They do not begin to understand the torment or brokenness of those who are bruised and have a wounded spirit.And quite frequently they blame .Jesus forgave and offered hope and safety.When a person knows they are forgiven and loved loved and being shown mercy and grace they begin to have hope and feel safe.This brings strength to their soul and an ability to overcome ,the knowledge that Jesus is their on thier side anf that He came to save .He saves to the uttermost and no one comes to the Father but by Him and he that cometh to Jesus shall on no wise be cast out.Sometimes people need to be told they are doing more harm than good.They need to realize that mercy and compassion gives hope.Not rules
others may say well you could offend people, its not what they believe. WELL SORRY! I DONT KNOW THE TRUTH BUT I CAN SEE YOU DONT EITHER! maybe I should step on some toes and stand up to hypocrites who think their words are life, but really came from the devil himself.
HoneyComb Son, It is true many of these people do not know the truth.Many are not meeting the needs of the least of these.Many of these people do need to be rebuked and have their toes stepped on and hypocrites do need to be stood up to.With firmness and love.I see you you are getting strong in your spirit and know it is wrong to be hurt by people and know the hurting like yourself need love and mercy and compassion.You are already beginning to see truth.Jesus is truth.I am so happy that you are getting strong enough to speak up.Many are like the pharasee on the hill who thought he was so righteous,tithing and praying and fasting etc.He looked down on the tax collector who was down a little ways from him and said God I thank you I am not like this guy.But the tax collector cried out for mercy and forgiveness from Jesus and was forgiven,I bet he went on to develop a close relationship with Jesus,and found safety and protection from Jesus and probably went on to share that comfort and mercy with others.But the pharasee had much to learn about humbling himself and truly repenting and recognizing he was a sinner in need of repentance just like the tax collector,because he did not realize his need for forgiveness and mercy he went away without it.Thinking he was just okay and better than others.He did not accept mercy from Jesus and therefore had no real comfort and mercy to share,only rules and bondages to share.
sigh, some believers need to be slapped. ITS ALL ABOUT LOVE! GET IT!! not hidden words, nor formula, no saying God wants good for us BUT..BUT there he could use pain or hurt you for His glory..who believes that twisted crap
I know how it feels to realize you have been hurt unfairly by some believers and led into pain by condemnination and formulas.The truth is Jesus died for us and rose again,no one comes to the Father but by Jesus.Jesus stated how to treat people even the least of these.Jesus stated He came to set the captive free and heal the broken hearted.A bruised reed He will not crush and a smoking flax He will not snuff out.Jesus states He came to give us peace ,heal us and forgive us.He is our strong tower and resting place. Isaiah ch 53 4Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
anyway, All I ask is not to be judged or condemned with nice twisted words that sound like love and grace.. I understand that feeling so much as this has happened to me so much.The people sometimes do not look at the heart,they look at the outside .They need to try seeing inside.We also need to try to see what is in their hearts also,kindness and mercy or not.Are they hurting too and need understanding too,are they motivated with kindness and compassion even if we disagree with somethings.I need to learn this as well.Even though many people rejected me or condemned me and blamed me and abandoned me and caused me pain or refused to see me at all, a few tried to help out but turned out they had new age type formulas therefore I had to turn away from that teaching and so called help to avoid being more in bondage, they did have love but not truth.Also as Elijah said many deliverance ministers are caught up in all kinds of weird beliefs and many cause way more harm than good and many do not even have much love, but are full of legalism and rules and formulas.There are a few ,very very few who are truly led by God in this area, almost all cannot be trusted.I do think it is very important not to condemn ourselves but to realize our great worth to God,and not to keep looking behind us , but rather to look ahead like you said and to keep our eyes on Jesus.
I was also wondering like Elijah what church you were involved in if okay to ask,not that it matters so much.Many churches can cause this type harm, and as Elijah said it is very hard to find a good one.I was wondering if it was a counterfeit charasmatic type one.There are true charasmatic churches with real truth and real love and mercy and gifts, and there are counterfeit ones caught up in the flesh.A solid knowledge of the truth of Jesus and His nature is needful to know which are which.A church should have pastors or elders that pastor the sheep with love and kindness and genuine concern.It is hard to find.I think the more you are able to open up about your pain and trauma it will help you heal.To have people care and listen to you.What you say is valid.
anyway, I truly thank you all for those with kind and encouraging words and God bless you all!
Thankyou HoneyComb, I really hope we can continue to encourage you more and more,to support you and help you heal, and be there there for you in whatever ways we can be.I see such a hunger for truth in you and a hunger to heal and I see a strength developing in you.I see you recognizing more truth as you search for truth from Jesus.I hope you continue to come back,I so much hope for your healing and well being and for inner strength and that you begin to feel safe with Jesus our rock of strength our protector,our Mighty Saviour.Jesus Bless You
I am Christian, that should be obvious..or in othe words..a son of God
I am very leary in what I believe these days, because alot of people teach different things..though all seem to be different..
its not as easy as people seem to say to do certain things..read the word..etc etc..all I can say is you have to see through my eyes..unless you can do that..then its hard to say certain things..its not really kind sometimes to say to certain people.oh I know feel.because you really dont..nor seen through my eyes..its not a challenge to see who has been through more or of hard times..
All I want is freedom. not some freaking rules or laws..formulas for stuff..I do need healing...I live in a small town..I know where the churches are..i been to two of them..they scare me..so I dont go...cause when I went..one scared me..other didnt really have life there..so I am waiting and hoping that this fall, if I go to school in a city, I can go to a place that is good
God bless
Hi Mate,
I am Christian, that should be obvious..or in othe words..a son of God. I wasn’t asking you that question. I was asking you how old are you and are you male or female, and where about you live?
I am very leary in what I believe these days, because alot of people teach different things..though all seem to be different.. Yes, as sad as it is, there are many churches that teach half-truths and half-Gospels. When it all boils down to the nitty-gritty, it’s all false teaching.
its not as easy as people seem to say to do certain things..read the word..etc etc..all I can say is you have to see through my eyes..unless you can do that..then its hard to say certain things..its not really kind sometimes to say to certain people.oh I know feel.because you really dont..nor seen through my eyes..its not a challenge to see who has been through more or of hard times.. Well mate I’ve seen the hard times in my 71 years of life. And between HIM and this little vegemite, I am still fighting a good fight of faith.
When I just began to focus on HIM the best way that I can, and not listen to all the stuff that comes forth from the front of the church, but stay in HIS WORD, not some watered-down version, then I began to understand more and more of HIS TRUTH.
The enemy comes against me daily, and it not easy being a believer in these modern days of the 21st Century.
All I want is freedom. not some freaking rules or laws..formulas for stuff..I do need healing... Well mate if you want healing, and there is no one in your area who can help you then you need to do a lot of reading. I suggested some of Neil Anderson’s books, and they will lead you to your road of recovery and healing.
But, if you see them as a lot of “freaking rules or laws or formulas”, then you can’t be helped.
Healing doesn’t come from a “quick fix” it comes from confession, repentance, and forgiveness. And that is what Neil Anderson’s books are about.
I live in a small town..I know where the churches are..i been to two of them..they scare me..so I dont go...cause when I went..one scared me..other didnt really have life there..so I am waiting and hoping that this fall, if I go to school in a city, I can go to a place that is good. What scared you, would you like to share?
I am Christian, that should be obvious..or in othe words..a son of God
I am very leary in what I believe these days, because alot of people teach different things..though all seem to be different..
I know you are a christian HoneyComb,I have always been sure of that.There are so many teachings out these any many of them are half truths or twisted truths.That is so true.
its not as easy as people seem to say to do certain things..read the word..etc etc..all I can say is you have to see through my eyes..unless you can do that..then its hard to say certain things..its not really kind sometimes to say to certain people.oh I know feel.because you really dont..nor seen through my eyes..its not a challenge to see who has been through more or of hard times..
I have gone through terrible times of fear, fear of God ,fear to pray ,fear to read the bible,in fact extreme terror of these things,and torment 24/7 too.And I know people seemed to think it was so easy, to pray and read the bible etc, but I found it very very difficult because I was so terrified of God. because they were not experiencing the terror themselves.I do not know what you are going through and I cannot see it through your eyes ,yet I can identify with terror and torment and suffering.There is no way someone can know what someone else is going through,and many people do think they have gone through heavy stuff,and they probably have.However in person I have never seen a person have such torment as to be suffering extreme torment and terror as to be causing deep sobbing and destruction of ability to function and almost having their mind shutting down and terror of everlasting hell.And on the internet I have only heard from a few .Not many people know about that kind of terror I dont think and certainly not so long standing as years of unrelenting.I do not think it kind either when people say I know what you are going through.They dont know as a general rule and no one can ever know exactly.Since we cannot know what is happening inside another person.I do not know what is happening to you , but I know you are suffering deeply and being tormented.I hope I never say anything to hurt you.I never want to do that.I hope it is okay when I tell you some of what I have been suffering just so you know.From reading what you have gone through it sounds horrible and I think you are very strong.I hope I can encourage you.When I post scriptures and such it was what I am trying to teach myself because of what I have been going through and I so very much want to heal and get to understand in my soul what Jesus truth is and His nature and His mercy and grace and long suffering and patience and love and power to heal and His forgiving nature and His protective nature so I can learn to trust Him and feel safe with Him and it is beginning to help me.I am a very wounded person myself.And my heart does go out to you.
All I want is freedom. not some freaking rules or laws..formulas for stuff..I do need healing...I live in a small town..I know where the churches are..i been to two of them..they scare me..so I dont go...cause when I went..one scared me..other didnt really have life there..so I am waiting and hoping that this fall, if I go to school in a city, I can go to a place that is good
You will find freedom HoneyComb, you will heal, church scares me and I seldom go ,but I do go once in a while and I am getting stronger and hope to be able to go more.I hope if you go to the city you do find a good church . Jesus Bless You annrobert
Mate this is an article I posted on another forum, have a read of it, and it will give you a fair idea on what needs to be covered.
Forgiveness A Simple Transformation and Renewal
Mate, what you call a con, is so, because that is way many so-called leaders work, when they are supposed to tend and feed HIS lambs and sheep!
When we are born-again, we are no longer “conformed to the world”, and we are suppose to be tended and fed by the leaders to become perfect in our Lord Jesus Christ. Good tending and good foundation in His Word on how to transform and renew our minds, our carnal and spiritual minds, our brain and our heart is what heals the broken-hearted, and delivers them from captivity.
The brain is Satan’s territory, and it does much harm to the heart (our Lord Jesus Christ’s territory), and sadly the old carnal mind keeps our “soul” in prison, cluttering up with all that emotional stuff, such as garbage, and garbage breeds rats. And because of all of this garbage, we never transform or renew our minds. Why is that so?
It’s so, because we allow our "will" to stay in charge of our transformation and renewal, and it’s so strong, that we are unable to really and truthfully confess, repent and forgive. We notice this in people who can’t say: “You are right, I am wrong, I am sorry, or Please forgive me or I forgive you!”
The supporting weapon to our “will” is our "pride" and when they are working together, then how can we be transformed and renewed?
Then all our hurts, offences, anger, and bitterness swirls around within our emotional porridge well supported by our “will” and “pride”, and our carnal mid takes over, and says: “Why should I confess and repent and forgive? They hurt me, they abused me, they rejected me, and they offended me!”
So, they all mix in together forming our emotional struggles, and garbage, and our spiritual mind, our heart suffers the consequences of Satan’s actions against us. This is where our transformation and renewal suffers, and can’t take place, because our “house” is empty, and not filled and cleansed, we are not healing our “soul”, because the brain is in control, Satan and his forces devours any good that comes into it. All our garbage begins to swirl around giving us good sound reasons why we shouldn't forgive, and the voices in the brain says: “You have confessed, so why do it again? You’ve already forgiven them!”
But, when we work with a good GOD-anointed counsellor, who know the “wiles of the enemy”, and show how to overcome and conquer all our hurts, offences, anger, bitterness, and resentfulness that is causing our problems, as we see all the rats romping around in our garbage, then we begin to heal, as our transformation and renewal is for real.
We can’t transform and renew our minds if we don’t know what our problems are, we can’t do it by ourself.
And as that wonderful counsellor begins to peel away all the layers of our hurts, offences, resentfulness, bitterness, anger, etc., then slowly our broken-heart begins to heal, we begin to see our freedom from evil, as we are set free from captivity, as we overcome and conquer our strongholds and strongmen, then our “pride”, and “will”, will disappear and HIS WILL, will take up residence in our “house”.
And as we begin to confess and repent all our sins, and begin receive and give forgiveness, we then begin to heal.
The brain fails, our “soul” is healed, then our heart becomes transformed and renewed, and when this happens then we are able to forgive others, ask other for forgiveness, and forgive ourself, then we are able to love others and ourself.
And when this happens mate, we are well and truly transformed and renewed, aren’t we? And guess what mate, we are healed.
Thank you LORD for the help and encouragement offered to my friend HoneyCombSon.. Help him find all the healing he needs.. bless him and lift him up and I praise YOU for YOU LORD heal the sick and forgive all our sins.. YOU lead us and guide us in all things and send us human comforters to encourage us and lead us to YOUR truth.. blessed be YOUR name.. amen
HoneyCombSon,
Once you understand that Jesus loves you and is protecting you,you will know you are safe with Him and you will begin to heal.Keep your eyes on Jesus and His promises and His meeting your needs.Keep your mind on Jesus and learn of His nature.That is the first step to healing.
take care
annrobert
Thanks all for you words, peacechild, annrobert, and Elijah2
Sigh to explain how difficult it is to come to Jesus, to read the word of God, to know Him, is to bring back the issue of brainwashing and feeling controled. I am so confused about the last 7 years...I am not even sure if what i learned was false, yet I know some of it is, I just know the fruit of it, and even then I cannot say for sure..
Back in recent years,while I was heavily into God, I feared, yet didnt know it, I felt Controlled and Swayed by God, like I had no control or desires or feelings or anything, I felt controled and swayed by God to do whatever was right and stay away from wrong. I felt dread, i felt my thoughts where not my own, in other words, I felt someone took over my body and wouldnt allow me to run my own body, I couldnt have a single thought that was my own, it became "its" desires and thoughts..All I thought I was following God, because that is what I was taught, sure I probably took what they taught alittle wrong, because what happened, I know that what they taught now is not necessary right. I felt Controled, like in my thoughts in my body and my physical actions. Because I learned God can talk to us through many means and ways. like closing your eyes and see what He shows you etc and other means. well that did not work well for me. Years went by, I wasnt reall there in my body you could say, controled manipulated and i didnt fully realize it. All i was in was dread, i couldnt think couldnt speak couldnt be human, its as if desires and what it mean to be human was taken away, its like someone for force feeding me or changing me without asking me to, i felt someone was changing me inside without my permission, changing me and my desires what I liked as a person, what I was, what I did, what it means to be human, if that makes sense, all i thought this somehow related to Jesus. So how do you think I think of Jesus of God. How do you think I Feel when all this relates in coordination with the unpardonable sin. not being able to think, because everything ties to the Blasphemy against The Holy Spirit. How do you think I feel when honestly out of love and desire tried to follow God, and learned all this "spiritual" stuf about God, about The Holy Spirit and how He works, I intended no wrong, I intended to follow God, yet what i learned about how God works speaks and other things, I ended up manipluated, controled, false beliefs i cannot even sort out today, I live in torement. i cant even think of The Holy Spirit, HOW DO YOU THINK THAT FEELS WHEN I MEANT NO HARM I TRIED TO FOLLOW GOD!! I never made the decision to feel like this, I WANTED GOD! yet I am condemned and have this in me, without my permission, because i tried to be humble and accept it could be of The Lord, yet in the long run was deception, so called spiritual stuff about God, about The Holy Spirit...all lead to these perverse distortion, where my mind, thoughts and all literally screwed up..cant think of God without some perverse mess. and I never intended to harm God.
"But, if you see them as a lot of “freaking rules or laws or formulas”, then you can’t be helped."
if I cant be helped so be it. Id rather die then go back to rules and formulas. Id rather live like this then go back to whats similar to hell.
I told you all before, if i could I would. its not that easy, when you are mentally spirituall physically messed up.. I mean this with my whole heart, All i wanted was truth. to be shown things abouot God. to be humble, now look what happened..I cant even tell within myself when Im telling the truth of a lie. who knows anymore
I live in Canada, in BC if that helps...what am I scared about the churches here. read above, Im not going to hang around what causes me great harm. am I affraid of the consequences yes! Am I affraid of your opinion NO! i really dont care, I try to do whts best for me, what I can do for myself and my health, its because of this that I am on the verge of have went through a mental breakdown, my health fails!
I wish I could look to Jesus, but I cant even go to Him with much of any of my heart. if you ask me what do you think of Jesus, yes i know He is love, but deep down from what has happened and what was shown and I heard. Jesus is a monster, angry, something I could never be around, if you were to say how Jesus is to you, all I know devil comes to mind, I dont mean that in any insult..you MUST understand, I say that..because thats all i know, deception, false Jesus' The devil pretending to be him to me, thats the Jesus i know, a false one. and I dont even honestly know that.
when words are said to me: He protects you, He loves you, He does good to you. I DO NOT KNOW what that means or implies, because words take on a different meaning, good is bad, bad is good:S so confused
anyway God bless, ill try to stick in there, to what I dont know
and God bless you all!
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