As a Catholic we believe and teach that our Church has a continous life from the time Jesus was here and left the Apostles in charge. The Catholic Church still uses buildings that were built around the 1st to 3rd centuries such as the Basilica of Saint Peter which Constantine had built. The Catholic Church also values many of the Traditions from the 1st century that are claimed to be Catholic such as the letter of Clement (1st Pope) and the Didache.
I think it would be interesting to hear about other churches and their unique histories.
So let us share with one another our individual Church's history.
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REVELATION 21: I (am) the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give a gift from the spring of life-giving water. The victor will inherit these gifts, and I shall be his God, and he will be my son. But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
As a Catholic we believe and teach that our Church has a continous life from the time Jesus was here and left the Apostles in charge. The Catholic Church still uses buildings that were built around the 1st to 3rd centuries such as the Basilica of Saint Peter which Constantine had built.
Not to nitpick, but St Peter's is 4th century and I would be very surprised if you were using any churches that were built earlier. When I say earlier than the 4th century, I include more recent churches which have been constructed on the site of an earlier church. I'm happy to be proved wrong, so if you are able to give details of any earlier churches please do list them.
As a Catholic we believe and teach that our Church has a continous life from the time Jesus was here and left the Apostles in charge. The Catholic Church still uses buildings that were built around the 1st to 3rd centuries such as the Basilica of Saint Peter which Constantine had built. The Catholic Church also values many of the Traditions from the 1st century that are claimed to be Catholic such as the letter of Clement (1st Pope) and the Didache.
I think it would be interesting to hear about other churches and their unique histories.
So let us share with one another our individual Church's history.
Very interesting thread topic. I'm not Catholic, but hope to eventually read all the early church fathers in the next couple years. So far only about half-way through 1st Clement.
As a Catholic we believe and teach that our Church has a continous life from the time Jesus was here and left the Apostles in charge. The Catholic Church still uses buildings that were built around the 1st to 3rd centuries such as the Basilica of Saint Peter which Constantine had built. The Catholic Church also values many of the Traditions from the 1st century that are claimed to be Catholic such as the letter of Clement (1st Pope) and the Didache.
I think it would be interesting to hear about other churches and their unique histories.
So let us share with one another our individual Church's history.
Pope Julius had the Old Saint Peter's Basilica torn down. Then he went on a grand selling of indulgences crusade to fund building the present one. I would guess that some remnants of the old basilica remain but I don't know exactly what.
Many stones for the New St Peter's came from the Colliseum.
Here's some interesting trivia for you, the so called Chair of St. Peter or cathedra as it has been called was given by Emporer Charles the Bald, and of course Peter never used it since it wasn't even in existence in his day.
__________________ Eze 36:25-27 ESV (25) I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. (26) And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. (27) And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.
Heb 10:22 ESV let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
Not to nitpick, but St Peter's is 4th century and I would be very surprised if you were using any churches that were built earlier. When I say earlier than the 4th century, I include more recent churches which have been constructed on the site of an earlier church. I'm happy to be proved wrong, so if you are able to give details of any earlier churches please do list them.
Also, Constantine did build in the 4th century the Basilica but there are remnants from the circus and it's burial ground like th eplace where Peter was buried and that most certainly goes back to the 1st century.
But I am hoping to hear others share in their history and not simply post arguments to my posts.
Jack
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REVELATION 21: I (am) the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give a gift from the spring of life-giving water. The victor will inherit these gifts, and I shall be his God, and he will be my son. But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
Very interesting thread topic. I'm not Catholic, but hope to eventually read all the early church fathers in the next couple years. So far only about half-way through 1st Clement.
I am still working on the ECFs writings and have found the ones I have read to be very good.
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REVELATION 21: I (am) the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give a gift from the spring of life-giving water. The victor will inherit these gifts, and I shall be his God, and he will be my son. But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
Pope Julius had the Old Saint Peter's Basilica torn down. Then he went on a grand selling of indulgences crusade to fund building the present one. I would guess that some remnants of the old basilica remain but I don't know exactly what.
Many stones for the New St Peter's came from the Colliseum.
Here's some interesting trivia for you, the so called Chair of St. Peter or cathedra as it has been called was given by Emporer Charles the Bald, and of course Peter never used it since it wasn't even in existence in his day.
Thanks for your added information. However, would you mind sharing some history of the Lutheran church here?
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REVELATION 21: I (am) the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give a gift from the spring of life-giving water. The victor will inherit these gifts, and I shall be his God, and he will be my son. But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
My own personal experience from the 12 years I lived in Thessaloniki has allowed me to see first hand many churches with links to the 1st century. The Church of St Menas in Thessaloniki is built on the site of the Synagogue where the Apostle Paul first preached. Unfortunately there are very few church structures which have survived from the first century due to the persecution by pagan Rome, so most surviving churches date from the 4th century when the persecution ended.
On the island of Paros is the church Panagia Ekatontapyliani which was founded by the Empress Helen but was built by Emperor Constantine in 328 after she had died. The current structure was built in its place by Justinian the Great two centuries later.
On Cyprus, the city of Larnaca was where Lazarus served as bishop. The city was originally named Kition but became known as Larnaca due to the many pilgrims traveling there to venerate the relics of Lazarus which were contained in a Stone Larnax or Larnaca in the church.
A monastery has been built around the cave on Patmos where the Apostle John experienced the vision he recorded in Revelations. A church was originally built there in the early 4th century.
I'm a United Methodist - which is a relatively new denomination in the Christian world, though we still cherish our ties to the ancient succession of Christian truth.
Where we came from is, I suppose, a little complicated. We are an offshoot of the Anglican Communion, formed when Henry VIII of England declared himself "head of the Church in England" so that he could give himself a divorce from his rightful Queen, Catherine, to marry Anne Bolyn.
About 3 centuries after that a guy named John Wesley led a reform movement within the Anglican Church. As the English were colonizing North America, devotees of Wesley's methodical spiritual disciplines went along. When the American Revolution happened, the King of England called home all of his clergy, leaving the American colonists without anyone to preside over the sacraments for them. Wesley (illegally, it must be admitted) ordained a couple of fellows & sent them to the Anglican christians in the North American colonies, to oversee their spiritual lives.
When the dust settled from the American Revolution, the "methodist" clergy formed themselves into a new church rather than reconciling with their English, Anglican mother-church.
...and that's where Methodists come from!
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Cool. I am glad to have a couple of church history posts.
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REVELATION 21: I (am) the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give a gift from the spring of life-giving water. The victor will inherit these gifts, and I shall be his God, and he will be my son. But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
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