Time to Deal with Darwinism!

Then why don't you put your evidence where your mouth is, see you in the formal debate forum.

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Backsliding!

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in the presence of Him whom he believed--God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did;

My most humble apologies. I'm new to this forum, as you can see, and I was hoping to find a bit of creative debate. I will take up your offer and continue this there.

Thanks.

During the second half of the 16th century to the second half of the 18th century, the Roman Inquisition took place. A series of tribunals were established and prosecuted individuals who participated in behaviour they believed to threaten Christianity, this ranged from heresy and blasphemy to witchcraft. Giordano Bruno and Domenico Scandella were among prominent cases of where these tribunals condemned people to death, another prominent case were the case of Galileo Galilei who was put in house arrest until his death. Approximately 60.000 cases were judged by these tribunals and of those approximately 1200 were condemned to death. They would also censor literature that was contrary to what they believed.

During the latter part of the 15th century to the end of the 18th century the Spanish Inquisition took place. Tribunals were established just like with the Roman Inquisition, but the Spanish Inquisition wasn't as relaxed on what they perceived as threats to Christianity as the Roman Inquistion was, and was much more focused on converting anyone they could by any means necessary, this would usually involve threatening people with torture or death and the ones that refused were either expelled, for example Jews were expelled from Spain solely because they were seen as a threat and due to them continuing practicing Judaism even after they had been 'converted'. They began repressing literally anyone that had 'wronged' them, ie Catholics who had converted to Islam, some Protestants(not many. They had also, like the Roman Inquisition begun censored literature they deemed a threat to or was contrary to Christianity and their beliefs - They produced indexes of books that were prohibited. Approximately 5000 people were executed.

Is this the kind of behaviour you want to be repeated by the religious establishment? I've read some of your posts and all of them seem fairly intelligent and well-constructed, it's a nice change from reading AV1611VET's posts, since usually his posts consists of him saying: "God did it, I don't care if you've got any scientific evidence that might suggest otherwise, God did it. I'm right and you're wrong. Insert arbitrary and impossible to win challenge here."

But now it sounds like you're promoting the kind of behaviour the Christian establishment used to participate in, which was disgusting, vile and repulsive and completely contrary to the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus.

You seem believe that every single person that's decided that Evolution best explains the diversity we see in life has intimate knowledge regarding the natural processes and the relevant evidence and can debate you on those topics, while in reality most people who see Evolution as a viable theory have a basic understanding of it that comes with the territory of being irreligious or from a country where doubt isn't seeded by groups like Answers in Genesis and most of these people discuss these issues with people who have tenous grasp of the entire thing or people who are genuinely curious about it.
They don't come prepared to discuss it with someone like you and the ones that do and are biologists or spend their days studying and finding evidence for Evolution and have all the relevant evidence needed to debate you are scarce and if they are there, they probably already have debated you, ie SLP and given the fact that both of you already have had your world views ingrained so deeply, it doesn't really matter what the other says - Confirmation bias is a cruel mistress.

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Wow, I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition...

Does anyone have the slightest clue why Creationists insist on referring to the Theory of Evolution as "Darwinism" as if today's Evolutionary theory is exactly the same as it was back in Darwin's time?

Well, no one really ever does.

Now stand over there while I poke you with pointy cushions.

Christianity is about salvation. It is about Christ dying for our sins. Not how we interpret Genesis. That being said, I just wanted to say that even in an evolution textbook I read, it said, "This is purely speculative." The evolution textbook ADMITTED that it was speculative.

The truth is, the Bible says God made man from dust and that's also what evolution says, isn't it?

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It may have been discussing a particular point and saying that the point was speculative. Otherwise, the textbook's author was mistaken. The theory of evolution is well established. There is very little that could overthrow it at this point.

But I agree on the whole -- Christianity is about salvation through Christ.

Evolution doesn't address where life came from, initially. Abiogenesis hypothesizes that life emerged from non-biological chemicals ("dust" loosely defined). I don't mean to dance around the issue with that -- it's just a common misunderstanding. For Theistic Evolutionists (or Evolutionary Creationists), it is understood that this is all according to the will of God and for His purposes. The theories don't make a case for or against that -- it's a matter of faith (or lack thereof).

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The correct answer was, "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"

I sentence you to 4 hours in the comfy chair.