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Old 22nd January 2009, 06:56 PM
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Hamas calls for Palestinian reconciliation

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090122/...inian_politics
Ah, sweet reconciliation. I'm just concerned that 'resistance' includes violence inducing behavior and massive damages in property and life. Also, substantial investments in useless terror weapons used to goad other countries into coming in an blowing up your stuff.

Of course, it would be foolish of me to assume that Israel will necessarily let go of sovereignty over invasive settlement areas without international pressure.

Ah, thus the problem is that the leaders here are keeping their hands close, rather than having all of their support crumble away when they fail miserably, purposefully, to find a peaceful solution to this decades old struggle.

Who is obstructing?
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Old 7th November 2009, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CCGirl View Post
That is what broke the ceasefire though!
This is actually in response to your cute sticker, the BOYCOTT APARTHEID ISRAEL.

Here is something special just for you. Please watch the whole video.

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Old 7th November 2009, 11:40 AM
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Hamas is part of the 7th head of the beast.
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Thats human nature unfortunately. "My side" can do no wrong and the "other side" is always wrong. If "my side" does something naughty we ignore it and if the "other side" does something bad we complain about it.

After months of being patient and exercising restraint, while repeatedly being slapped in the face, any nation can only take as much.
Neither side took the cease fire seriously. The Israeli government violated it as often as the Palestinians. To say that the Israeli government was being "patient" and acting with "restraint" doesn't ring out to be that accurate to me.
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Your anti-boycott Israel video was humorous and made some good points. However... using that same logic one could make a video about how stupid it was to boycott Nazi Germany based on all the products, scientists, inventions, etc that came out of Germany or were made by Germans. It would be irrelevant. The German government was behaving badly despite all the nice things that came out of Germany. Many people feel the same way about the Israeli government. Many people feel the same way about Hamas too. It would be nice if we as private citizens could effectivly boycot them both and bring about real change in that manner. I doubt it though.
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Hamas is part of the 7th head of the beast.
Which beast are you referring to? I know that some animals (including humans) are born bi-headed (with two heads), but 7 heads? Also you say "is part of the 7th head"; which part are you referring to? The nose, ears, tongue, eyes; which?
Please let us know as I know of no such animal!
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No Arab want the Israeli state and we will never accept it with us not in a million years.
That's nothing new. That has been the Arab/Muslim stance since 1948.

You don't have to accept us but we will be your neighbours until Isa (Y'shua/Jesus) returns. And don't count on Ahmadinejad to change that.

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Originally Posted by ShabbatShalom View Post
That's nothing new. That has been the Arab/Muslim stance since 1948.

You don't have to accept us but we will be your neighbours until Isa (Y'shua/Jesus) returns. And don't count on Ahmadinejad to change that.
My dear friend. If you know iranian history, you would know, that we did always achieve what we wished.
It was our king Cyrus, who gave you that land and said you can have it as long we wish.
We donīt wish it any longer.
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My dear friend. If you know iranian history, you would know, that we did always achieve what we wished.
It was our king Cyrus, who gave you that land and said you can have it as long we wish.
We don´t wish it any longer.
In Genesis 15:18, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob declares:

"To your descendants [Abraham's] I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates." God later confirms this promise to Abraham's son Isaac, and Isaac's son Jacob (whose name was later changed to Israel)".

With Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4 in mind, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile river in Egypt to Lebanon (North to South) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (West to East). So, what land has God stated belongs to Israel? All of the land modern Israel currently possesses, plus all of the land of the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Israel currently possesses only a fraction of the land God has promised.

God gave us that land, not your Cyrus. Cyrus was a man, who is now dead. Our God is a living God and His promises stand forever. He is not a man that He should lie.

Your arrogance is revolting.
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