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14th January 2009, 07:47 PM
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Is anyone a member of the Moravian church? Here in Illinois their numbers are pretty small but there is a little presence. Someone once described it to me "pretty Lutheran" and landing between LCMS and ELCA theologically and politically, how true do you think this is? How is this church unique from the other Lutheran churches? Thank you.
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Is anyone a member of the Moravian church? Here in Illinois their numbers are pretty small but there is a little presence. Someone once described it to me "pretty Lutheran" and landing between LCMS and ELCA theologically and politically, how true do you think this is? How is this church unique from the other Lutheran churches? Thank you.
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24th January 2009, 07:17 PM
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Yeah Wesley was influenced by the Moravians, they came long before he did. I heard it was a pretty liturgical church but I don't know firsthand.
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A little history:
Jan Hus (Hus means goose) who founded the movement (Hussites) fore-told Luther's reformation. When he was taken to be burnt he said "This goose is cooked (that's where the euphemism comes from) but a swan will follow who will not be burnt" the Luther family emblem was a swan.
Following the reformation the remaining Hussites adopted the Augsburg Confession as a common statement of faith. Their worship form tends to be liturgical, but somewhat less so than most Lutheran Churches. Their doctrine however is very Lutheran, as is their view of the sacraments.
There are no Moravian Churches here in Southern Ontario, but there is one abandoned mission Church in the Moraviatown Indian Reserve. A rather lawless spot where the police go to recover burned-out stolen vehicles (no exaggeration, my friend is a retired Provincial Police officer who told me that it's one, maybe two a week).
The Moravian Church is however thriving in Labrador and our arctic among the Inuit (Eskimos), and just a few years ago changed from Mission status to an autonomous Moravian Church (Synod we Lutherans would call it).
From what I understand, in the US, the Southern Moravians tend to be more liberal, the ones in the North, more conservative, but all are in fellowship.
Not much help, but thought you would be interested.
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25th January 2009, 01:50 AM
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A little history:
Jan Hus (Hus means goose) who founded the movement (Hussites) fore-told Luther's reformation. When he was taken to be burnt he said "This goose is cooked (that's where the euphemism comes from) but a swan will follow who will not be burnt" the Luther family emblem was a swan.
Following the reformation the remaining Hussites adopted the Augsburg Confession as a common statement of faith. Their worship form tends to be liturgical, but somewhat less so than most Lutheran Churches. Their doctrine however is very Lutheran, as is their view of the sacraments.
There are no Moravian Churches here in Southern Ontario, but there is one abandoned mission Church in the Moraviatown Indian Reserve. A rather lawless spot where the police go to recover burned-out stolen vehicles (no exaggeration, my friend is a retired Provincial Police officer who told me that it's one, maybe two a week).
The Moravian Church is however thriving in Labrador and our arctic among the Inuit (Eskimos), and just a few years ago changed from Mission status to an autonomous Moravian Church (Synod we Lutherans would call it).
From what I understand, in the US, the Southern Moravians tend to be more liberal, the ones in the North, more conservative, but all are in fellowship.
Not much help, but thought you would be interested.
Mark Interesting information on Jan Hus! I'm serving as a missionary in the Czech Republic right now, and Jan Hus is definitely a character I studied a bit before coming here. As a history teacher in the States, I was appalled how little I knew about him. I love this bit of trivia that "Hus" means "goose" and that "His goose is cooked" came from Hus! Neat! I'm going to have to share that with some of my other missionary friends here. 
I've not had much interaction with the Moravian church here in CZ. There is a Hussite church on the opposite corner from our Apostolic church in our Czech town. I'm not sure how active it is. The local Catholic church is much more highly attended than the Hussite one.
I also do not know of any Moravian churches in the States. | 
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Reps: 1,198,247,620,748,319,488 (power: 1,198,247,620,748,336) | | Originally Posted by AmaaandaB Interesting information on Jan Hus! I'm serving as a missionary in the Czech Republic right now, and Jan Hus is definitely a character I studied a bit before coming here. As a history teacher in the States, I was appalled how little I knew about him. I love this bit of trivia that "Hus" means "goose" and that "His goose is cooked" came from Hus! Neat! I'm going to have to share that with some of my other missionary friends here. 
I've not had much interaction with the Moravian church here in CZ. There is a Hussite church on the opposite corner from our Apostolic church in our Czech town. I'm not sure how active it is. The local Catholic church is much more highly attended than the Hussite one.
I also do not know of any Moravian churches in the States.
Hi Amanda,
I'm envious, some of the best beers in the world come from the Czechs!
I know little about the Apostolic Chrurch, are they more evangelical? There are a few Apostolic Congregations in Ontario, but I have had no contact with them or any of their members at all.
Just a note; our more conservative and catholic congregations within Lutheranism commemorate Hus as a saint, and reffer to him as a proto-reformer. Good term I think. | 
25th January 2009, 02:55 PM
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I knew that they were in communion with the episcopalians.
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