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10th January 2009, 04:23 AM
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It looks like Nature, the most prestigious scientific journal, has decided to weigh in on the Creation vs. Evolution controversy with an essay citing 15 examples published in the last decade to illustrate evolution. Here it is: http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
Got this via Bad Astronomy.
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10th January 2009, 05:03 AM
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Reps: 6,155,096,027,645,786 (power: 6,155,096,027,658) | | " Yet there is good evidence that
mammals originally evolved on land. If that is so, then the ancestors of whales must have taken to the water at some point."
See? See?!? "IF" that is so! Those scientifical guys dont know, they just say IF all the time.
Pshaw.
" It used to be thought that the first landlubbers
were stranded fish that evolved to spend more and more time
ashore, returning to water to reproduce. Over the past 20 years, palaeontologists have uncovered fossils that
have turned this idea upside down"
See? See?!? Those scientifical guys are always changing their opinions.
One word-
Pluto
Can't trust 'em I tell ya.
" The discovery of feathered dinosaurs not only vindicated the idea of transitional forms, but also showed
that evolution has a way of coming up with a dazzling variety of solutions when we had no idea that there
were even problems."
But they're still DINOSAURS!! Not Birds!!! PWNED!
Shall I keep on going?
Embarrass you scientifical types even more?
MWWAHAHAHA
Seriously, though, cool .pdf, I'll be reading it with interest
Thanks 
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11th January 2009, 01:29 PM
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11th January 2009, 01:31 PM
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I guess the illusion of certainty is better than being honest to some people.
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14th January 2009, 05:48 AM
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This creationist insists also that whales were landlubbers first and only adapted to the sea after the flood.
In fact i once had a letter to the editor published in Nature on this. With Prothero answering.
Its good to see them frightened by the rising successful criticism that is becoming famous and intrusive in all the Anglo-American world.
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Reps: 56,734,881,133,185,528 (power: 56,734,881,133,195) | | Originally Posted by RobertByers This stuff is terrible. Studies about nothing. Clams and snakes have poison. Well duh.
This creationist insists also that whales were landlubbers first and only adapted to the sea after the flood.
In fact i once had a letter to the editor published in Nature on this. With Prothero answering.
Its good to see them frightened by the rising successful criticism that is becoming famous and intrusive in all the Anglo-American world.
These 15 are good evidence of the poverty of a idea to explain glorious complexity in biology.
yeah. one word. Dover. ahaha who are you fooling. |
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Reps: 9,274,249 (power: 9,291) | | Originally Posted by RobertByers This stuff is terrible. Studies about nothing. Clams and snakes have poison. Well duh.
I already suspected that you were deficient in your reading capabilities. Thank you for demonstrating this so nicely here. This creationist insists also that whales were landlubbers first and only adapted to the sea after the flood.
In fact i once had a letter to the editor published in Nature on this. With Prothero answering.
Link? Its good to see them frightened by the rising successful criticism that is becoming famous and intrusive in all the Anglo-American world.
These 15 are good evidence of the poverty of a idea to explain glorious complexity in biology.
Not only reading deficient, but also delusional.
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Reps: 110,182,959,778,071,968 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by RobertByers This stuff is terrible. Studies about nothing. Clams and snakes have poison. Well duh.
This creationist insists also that whales were landlubbers first and only adapted to the sea after the flood.
In fact i once had a letter to the editor published in Nature on this. With Prothero answering.
Its good to see them frightened by the rising successful criticism that is becoming famous and intrusive in all the Anglo-American world.
These 15 are good evidence of the poverty of a idea to explain glorious complexity in biology.
ok, so you can generalize, and say "well duh". You can make things up like that "they" are "frightened".
What you cant do is find one single item in evolutionary theory or geological dating that can be falsified. Isnt that odd. Something so monstrously false should be such a target-rich environment. Why cant you find even one? Want a hint? |
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Well, to be pedantic, I think you meant has been, not can be. Of course, many things in evolution can be potentially falsified. That's part of what makes it a good theory. The other part is that these things have been tested over and over and over again and the theory has failed to be falsified each time.
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Reps: 38,791,378,841,557,992 (power: 38,791,378,841,574) | | Originally Posted by RobertByers This stuff is terrible. Studies about nothing. Clams and snakes have poison. Well duh.
This creationist insists also that whales were landlubbers first and only adapted to the sea after the flood.
In fact i once had a letter to the editor published in Nature on this. With Prothero answering.
Its good to see them frightened by the rising successful criticism that is becoming famous and intrusive in all the Anglo-American world.
These 15 are good evidence of the poverty of a idea to explain glorious complexity in biology.
Care to point out a particular one of the 15 examples you find particularly poor and why?
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