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I think it would be fair to say that the cave is both metaphorical and historical. Christ was likely born in a cave, not in a man-made structure. In our hymnography we refer to the cave as a gift from the earth itself to the Master of all Creation at the time of His Nativity in the flesh. It does symbolize the coming of the light of the world into the darkness, but it is meant to depict reality just as much as it is meant to depict the meaning of the event.
True. It is both. It is also there to reference scripture.

Matthew, Ch 4.

12When Jesus heard that John had been put in prison, he returned to Galilee. 13Leaving Nazareth, he went and lived in Capernaum, which was by the lake in the area of Zebulun and Naphtali— 14to fulfill what was said through the prophet Isaiah:
15"Land of Zebulun and land of Naphtali,
the way to the sea, along the Jordan,
Galilee of the Gentiles—
16the people living in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of the shadow of death
a light has dawned."
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Old 20th February 2009, 10:24 AM
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Is this the iconographer's den? ..... If it is I want to know where do you order your tempera paints and how you mix the egg yoke in it... Be truthful now...hehehe where are those sites you all order? If they are in Greece I want to know where to go and buy them... or on the net it will be easier ...Thanks.
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Old 20th February 2009, 12:34 PM
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Mixing egg yolk is hard for me to explain how to do. It is easier for me to show you than to explain it to you. I get my pigments from "Natural Pigments", when I do write in tempera. Most of the time I use Jo Sonja's Acrylic Gouache.
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okie... thanks I was just curious if there was a standard way of mixing it, but I guess everyone must have their own way. Thank for the information
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http://www.earthpigments.com/index.cfm

Can't get the Natural Pigments site to work, but this one looks pretty good too.
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I would much rather work with acrylic than pigment.
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I am with ya Michael.. that is what I do... but for now I am painting crafts for my daughter's school auction... Check my profile pics. But if I get some time I am thinking of an icon of St. Nicholas It is a vow to St. Nicholas I got to honor it.
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Originally Posted by Philothei View Post
I am with ya Michael.. that is what I do... but for now I am painting crafts for my daughter's school auction... Check my profile pics. But if I get some time I am thinking of an icon of St. Nicholas It is a vow to St. Nicholas I got to honor it.
Use Jo Sonja's Acrylic Gouache from Jerrys Artarama. It is $1.99 per tube.
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I was using Utrecht acrylics all this time I will check them out as I have run out of them. I love that store in Boston it was my "hang out" in college years I used to spend all my extra money buying art supplies from them...


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Originally Posted by Philothei View Post
I was using Utrecht acrylics all this time I will check them out as I have run out of them. I love that store in Boston it was my "hang out" in college years I used to spend all my extra money buying art supplies from them...


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My friend Nick swears by Utrecht paint, I have not used it. Both Matt and I use Jo Sonja's. I also love Golden brand acrylics.
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