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Unread 29th May 2009, 04:06 AM
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Still no sunspots

Where are the Sunspots?

Sunspot activity continues to be very low to nothing at all. According to some sites that I have read, it appears that we my have gone into a second solar minimum after a recent, brief upturn in activity.

Latest image of the blank sun.


The latest prediction as of March 2009 indicates that sunspot activity will soon start to increase very shortly, but we have heard this before. Some predictions from over a year ago anticipated a solar minimum during March of 2008.


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The latest prediction as of March 2009 indicates that sunspot activity will soon start to increase very shortly, but we have heard this before. Some predictions from over a year ago anticipated a solar minimum during March of 2008.
Soon, as in: not yet.
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Clouds

I'm looking out my window and all I see are clouds. It would seem that cosmic theory is just making clouds all over the Pacific NW. Cosmic rays and climate
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Dude, it's like 40 degrees hotter than six months ago. At this we'll all be dead in a year!

Oh wait, found the sunspots:


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I'm looking out my window and all I see are clouds.
That's weather, not climate. Not to mention this is supposed to be about global temperature trends, not the view out your window.

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It would seem that cosmic theory is just making clouds all over the Pacific NW.
This doesn't even make any sense.

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A bunch of debunked nonsense surrounded by lies? No thanks.
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By the way, in case anybody was interested in some real information on solar activity, take a look at this excellent blog post by the Bad Astronomer:
Here comes the Sun(spot)! | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine
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There’s no scientific basis for forecasting climate. Zing................!
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There’s no scientific basis for forecasting climate. Zing................!
If this were true, then why do you keep claiming that you can predict future climate?
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Well, preliminary results seem to indicate that 2009 is going to be quite a warm year, as it's starting to look like an El Nino is beginning to form:
Model Outlooks for El Niño and La Niña

It's not certain, of course, but it's beginning to seem likely.

I'd also like to point out that even if the solar irradiance were decreasing, as you seem to believe, we wouldn't feel the effects yet regardless: it takes about ten years for the Earth's temperature to catch up to changes in solar irradiance.
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