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Is A Bottle Of Wine/Night Bad?

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If I can drink a bottle of wine in one night...is that bad? Is that showing signs of alcoholism? I have one of those huge wine goblets and it almost holds a bottle of wine. If I somewhat fill it up, start talking w/ my girls and watching TV...before you know it...it's gone. Well, it takes about an hr or two but you get my drift. Is that bad?

Recently, when I go to the store to buy wine, an alcoholic always catches my eye (<--There always seems to be one of those male/females, on the isle, that you know drinks too much just by looking at them) and the same thought pops in my head: "If you don't slow down...you'll end up like them!" I'm only 20-something...could God be warning me?

Edit: I forgot to add that I don't have a bottle of wine/night every night. But, if I do drink wine...I can drink a bottle. How often does it happen? Maybe like 2 times/month. But, I'm wondering if I'm starting a bad habit. I don't want to start something that will spiral out of control. I'm a very instinctual person so maybe I'm answering my own question by posting this thread

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That's a lot of wine. You want to be really careful this doesn't become a more common occurrence, but even a couple times a month isn't great. You must be feeling pretty slammed when your goblet is empty.

I have nothing against drinking. I myself drink in moderation, which is why the idea of drinking an entire bottle of wine in one sitting concerns me.

Here's a suggestion, next time you want some wine, use a regular wine glass, and limit yourself to one or two. One of the things I think about is how I really enjoy a beer or a whiskey from time to time and I would hate to have to give them up because I became an alcoholic.
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No, I'm not slammed after a bottle of wine. That's a bad sign huh? I used to not be able to drink a whole bottle but now I can. I can slowly drink more and more. I used to have a hangover the next day but now I don't...
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I'd say you are starting a bad habit. You may drink infrequently; but it's a bad sign that you always or almost always end up killing the bottle.
It's very easy to do, and it's how I started in the early days. You get busy with conversation, a hobby, even reading or just thinking, notice your glass is getting empty, and refill it reflexively; but if you have alcoholic tendencies you're soon buying the bottle to take home and empty. You can go a good many years this way with no one suspecting you have a drinking problem, even when it becomes a bottle a night. And it's surprisingly easy to kid yourself. (Take it from me, and others who will reply here, you don't want to find out how easy.)
Turn the big goblet into a planter and try doing without for a month. If you find yourself having cravings, some real problems adjusting, you're on notice you have a problem. If you can in total honesty say you did fine without it, you might just need a smaller glass and a little more attentiveness. And keep us posted.
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No, I'm not slammed after a bottle of wine. That's a bad sign huh? I used to not be able to drink a whole bottle but now I can. I can slowly drink more and more. I used to have a hangover the next day but now I don't...
It says you have developed a high tolerance, which in turn means you will drink more, which isn't good.

Just limit yourself so you don't end up with a problem, because once you have an actual problem you have to abstain. I wouldn't want to become an alcoholic simply because I love a good beer and I'd hate to have to give it up because I abused it.
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Thanks for the replies. I threw the wine away and I'm going to see how long I can go w/o drinking. I used to drink A LOT in undergrad and I remember my coach telling me that he thought I had a drinking problem...I shrugged it off. I stopped drinking for 2yrs but now if I drink, I'll drink wine. No liquor, shots or anything else I used to drink in UG.

But, I'm trying to turn my life around and I prayed for God to use me as he sees fit. Now, even when I drink wine...I get this weird feeling not to even drink wine. This is also when I started noticing the alcoholics on the wine/liquor isle in the grocery store when I would buy wine; I've never noticed them before. Also, when I go to buy wine, I feel guilty for some odd reason. Strange huh?
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No. Frankly, I suspect most of us had that feeling; and just dismissed it. (See my remark about the ease of kidding oneself). We AA's speak of alcoholism as "cunning, baffling, powerful." Even in the early stages it subverts good sense and judgment. I'd take that guilt feeling very seriously!
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But, I'm trying to turn my life around and I prayed for God to use me as he sees fit. Now, even when I drink wine...I get this weird feeling not to even drink wine. This is also when I started noticing the alcoholics on the wine/liquor isle in the grocery store when I would buy wine; I've never noticed them before. Also, when I go to buy wine, I feel guilty for some odd reason. Strange huh?
Not strange at all. You knew you had a problem and you wanted confirmation. I was a binge drinker when I was young. Senior year of high school and the following three or four years, every weekend was New Year's Eve. I only drank on the weekends, but with not control at all. I went totally dry for five years, and then started to actually enjoy a drink here and there. I found a reasonable limit that I don't go beyond, and actually I rarely have more than a glass of wine or a beer with dinner.
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Alcoholism is not defined by how much you drink, or how often you drink. It is defined by your ability to stop once you start, and your mental state prior to taking your first drink.

The ability to stop can be best described as a craving. Once an alcoholic takes their first drink, they crave more, until they run out. Few alcoholics will leave a half empty glass on the table when everyone else is leaving. I have, but it was to deceive the people who were with me, and I knew I had more at home. A good way to test for this is to drink only one or two regular sized drinks, and abruptly stop for the night. Try this several times. Different days of course. If you can honestly say that you really didn't want more, then you probably do not have the first part of the disease of alcoholism.

The mental state prior to taking your first drink can best be described as becoming restless, irritable, and discontent, until you finally take the first drink. This is of course not the only reason for taking the first drink. We often start drinking because we are celebrating. But most of us will become restless, irritable, or discontent, if we have decided to NOT drink when everyone else is celebrating and drinking. A good test for this is to stop drinking altogether for a year and see if you can do it. If an alcoholic is early in their progression, they may make it. But anyone who has progressed far, will be highly unlikely to succeed.

I was around 22 when I began to suspect that I could not drink like other people. Looking back, I definitely had the cravings, even from the first time I got drunk. But, my drinking pattern started out as once in a while, then twice a month, then only on most weekends, then every weekend, then once or twice a week, until finally I was getting drunk 6 nights a week. I reserved one night a week to prove to myself that I could stop at any time... we are very good at deceiving ourselves... I actually believe that by stopping once a week, I had it under control.

Please be aware that there is a solution. If you are ready to find it, please continue to post your questions here. We are available to help.
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Alcoholism is not defined by how much you drink, or how often you drink. It is defined by your ability to stop once you start, and your mental state prior to taking your first drink.

The ability to stop can be best described as a craving. Once an alcoholic takes their first drink, they crave more, until they run out. Few alcoholics will leave a half empty glass on the table when everyone else is leaving. I have, but it was to deceive the people who were with me, and I knew I had more at home. A good way to test for this is to drink only one or two regular sized drinks, and abruptly stop for the night. Try this several times. Different days of course. If you can honestly say that you really didn't want more, then you probably do not have the first part of the disease of alcoholism.

The mental state prior to taking your first drink can best be described as becoming restless, irritable, and discontent, until you finally take the first drink. This is of course not the only reason for taking the first drink. We often start drinking because we are celebrating. But most of us will become restless, irritable, or discontent, if we have decided to NOT drink when everyone else is celebrating and drinking. A good test for this is to stop drinking altogether for a year and see if you can do it. If an alcoholic is early in their progression, they may make it. But anyone who has progressed far, will be highly unlikely to succeed.

I was around 22 when I began to suspect that I could not drink like other people. Looking back, I definitely had the cravings, even from the first time I got drunk. But, my drinking pattern started out as once in a while, then twice a month, then only on most weekends, then every weekend, then once or twice a week, until finally I was getting drunk 6 nights a week. I reserved one night a week to prove to myself that I could stop at any time... we are very good at deceiving ourselves... I actually believe that by stopping once a week, I had it under control.

Please be aware that there is a solution. If you are ready to find it, please continue to post your questions here. We are available to help.
Yeah, I decided I should stop drinking in general. Like you stated in the beginning of your post, it's not how often you drink but your ability to stop once you've started. I used to just drink, drink, drink until we ran out of stuff to drink but now, that's not really the case. BUT, it's b/c I try to control myself...the urge is still there. So, with that said, I should just abstain from alcohol...period.

I have an "overdue-it" personality; I tend to go overboard w/ everything...especially fun stuff like drinking and partying (<--which is why I don't drink/party that much anymore). So, my goal is to not drink for the month of Jan...and just keep going from there. I've gone 3yrs w/o drinking so I know it's doable.

Also, does anyone know why I suddenly get blackouts now? I never used to get blackouts until I stopped drinking for 3yrs then started again. I don't get blackouts every time, but they're pretty frequent if I do drink. Like, I won't even consider myself wasted but I'll wake up the next morning (w/o a hangover) and forget some of the small things I did the night before. I guess that's called a 'mini blackout'? Anyway, out of 5 times of drinking, it'll probably happen 2 times.
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