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The Mark of the beast is:

Everyone God told time was up to have confessed (Romans 10:9-10) Christ, be baptized (Acts 2:38-41. Mark 16:16), and repent (Luke 13:3). Everyone who didn't do Mark 16:16 becomes Acts 16:16.
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That's right people are told by God while they are here on earth that they no longer have the option to repent that is why there were devils mentioned in the New Testament and yes devils are still here today.
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The mark of the beast (Revelation 16:2) will be a literal, visible mark
which people will receive on their right hand or forehead, and
without which they won't be allowed to buy or sell anything
(Revelation 13:16-17).

People who receive the mark of the beast could be given the choice
of receiving it either on their right hand or forehead (Revelation
13:16), and they could be given the choice of receiving either a
symbol of the Antichrist, or his name, or the gematrial number of his
name (Revelation 13:17), which is 666 (Revelation 13:18).

But Christians need to be aware that this "666" could be disguised to
look like "777", in the following way: the 6th letter of the ancient
Hebrew alphabet has a numerical value of 6 in gematria, yet it looks
like our number 7. So Christians could think that they're receiving
"the true mark of Christ, 777", when actually they're receiving a mark
consisting of a triple iteration of the 6th letter of the ancient Hebrew
alphabet, representing a triple iteration of the number 6.

The mark of the beast could be placed on the right hand or forehead
by scarification, for the original Greek word translated as "mark"
(Revelation 16:2) can mean a scratch or etching, and scarification is
the scratching or etching of the skin just deep enough to leave a
permanent mark.

There's even a popular energy drink the symbol of which looks like a
monster's scratching: three ragged vertical scratch-lines which
together look sort of like 777, or a triple iteration of the 6th letter of
the ancient Hebrew alphabet, so that the symbol could represent a
disguised form of 666. It's possible that this is meant to be
understood as some sort of joke, a humorous harbinger of what the
mark of the beast could look like, for on the side of the energy-drink's
cans one finds the motto: Unleash the Beast!

But the mark of the beast will be no joke: anyone who receives it
and worships the Antichrist and his image will be damned to eternal
torment in fire and brimstone (Revelation 14:9-11). So Christians
will need to be willing to be killed (Revelation 14:12-13), even
beheaded (Revelation 20:4), before receiving the mark.
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The mark of the beast could be placed on the right hand or forehead
by scarification, for the original Greek word translated as "mark"
(Revelation 16:2) can mean a scratch or etching, and scarification is
the scratching or etching of the skin just deep enough to leave a
permanent mark.

What is the Greek word? if you know off-hand.. and i'll look into it.
I have concern that the american real ID card is the mark, and its corresponding world card ID system, which will link into the one-world financial system, which they set up, after they have crashed all the worlds non-beast system currencies. The amero will prob. replace the dollar, and be equal in exchange to the euro. I've seen a pic. of an old draft of the ID card, and it had the 3 six symbol over the face of the pic. on the card. It is a difficult issue to resolve, if the card is the mark of the beast, or if it is only the pre-curse to the chip implant, or tatoo, but also i think the wording is symbolic of mind and action. But it is both, and it needs to be obvious, as these SoBs are going to prevent everyone from buying anything, including food, so people could starve, for not taking it, so to not take their satanic card, or take it, needs to be considered carefully. There are non-christians that have already decided not to accept the card, as it is against liberty, and right.
I heard that there is a new law in the US, which prevents people from stocking up of food, for more than a month supply.. so they might be doing this so that people must be roped into their supply system.
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They are tracking most of us like a bunch of dogs with a chip implant and it is scary isn't?
I was of the thought the mark would be a literal tattoo, but now I wonder if it isn't a tattoo with an implant. The implant would pick up any signal its' designed to thus creating mind control by these people. Never occurred to me before now...
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I think it's going to have to be implanted so that a person can't remove it easily...or so it can't be faked/copied.

A tattoo can be removed with lasers or altered.

Think about all the people who think this is going to be a great idea...they are the people who think the government should supply every need from the cradle to the grave.
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A Literal, Visible Mark...Blab, Blab, Blab.

H O R S E - F E A T H E R S !

Ever consider that since we are all born dead in trespasses and sins, we come with the 'mark' in the first place? I suppose then that the means by which we could be saved would be to receive the mark of God, the seal of the Holy Spirit, which is the reality to which the baptismal sign of water points. Interestingly enough, my faith tradition puts the baptismal sign of water in the same place where John portrays Mr. Beastie as putting his.

How cool is that?
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Originally Posted by Bible2 View Post
The mark of the beast (Revelation 16:2) will be a literal, visible mark
which people will receive on their right hand or forehead, and
without which they won't be allowed to buy or sell anything
(Revelation 13:16-17).
Then, if the mark of the beast is not a symbolic mark (in this highly symbolic book) is not the mark of the Father, two verses later, on the christians a visible tattoo too?


But Christians need to be aware that this "666" could be disguised to
look like "777", in the following way: the 6th letter of the ancient
Hebrew alphabet has a numerical value of 6 in gematria, yet it looks
like our number 7. So Christians could think that they're receiving
"the true mark of Christ, 777", when actually they're receiving a mark
consisting of a triple iteration of the 6th letter of the ancient Hebrew
alphabet, representing a triple iteration of the number 6.
The problem with this is the the greek text nowhere, and in no texts say three numbers of six. It only says ONE single numeric value and this is sixhundredandsixtysix. "Hexakosioi hexēkonta hex" or directly the "khee xee stig'-ma" (the three letters that denotes these numbers.)
This make your theory very unlikely and christians should not be aware of this at all.

The mark of the beast could be placed on the right hand or forehead
by scarification, for the original Greek word translated as "mark"
(Revelation 16:2) can mean a scratch or etching, and scarification is
the scratching or etching of the skin just deep enough to leave a
permanent mark.
Well, the question stands: Yes a charagma is a mark that visible signifies belonging to someone, but the rest of these chaptes are symbolic. Why is suddenly this single sentence to be taken literal. Specially since the angel told john that the visions are "signs", or symbols, of reality and not direct descriptions of reality. Would it not be best to follow the bibles own directions for interpretation?


There's even a popular energy drink the symbol of which looks like a
monster's scratching: three ragged vertical scratch-lines which
together look sort of like 777, or a triple iteration of the 6th letter of
the ancient Hebrew alphabet, so that the symbol could represent a
disguised form of 666. It's possible that this is meant to be
understood as some sort of joke, a humorous harbinger of what the
mark of the beast could look like, for on the side of the energy-drink's
cans one finds the motto: Unleash the Beast!
Yes, because christians have trough movies and bestselling novels and preacing about the beast made this a pop cultural reference that soda companies can use to sell their drinks.

But the mark of the beast will be no joke: anyone who receives it
and worships the Antichrist and his image will be damned to eternal
torment in fire and brimstone (Revelation 14:9-11). So Christians
will need to be willing to be killed (Revelation 14:12-13), even
beheaded (Revelation 20:4), before receiving the mark.
Of couse you are aware that Nero declared himself to be a god on the line with Apollo and that he should be worshipped and that he rose a huge statue of himself. Later the roman emipre forced empire worship, they had their false prophets (the priesthood) and not anly disallowed the Jesus-worshippers to buy and sell, but actually killed many millions of them for it. Their crime was that instead of saying "Ceasar is Lord" they said "Jesus Christ is Lord". Of course the christians didnt have a literal mark on their forehead, even though the book say they had the name of their father in their forehead. But they did spiritually belong to Him. Also, thos who chose the beast (and yes, the time DID come where you either chose toe follow and worship Jesus, or you followed the beast.) did not have a tattoo of 666 in their foreheads, but they were still likewise marked spiritually. This continues to be true to day, but in that time the line between the christians and romans became totally black and white.
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What about a Verichip

It has to control the commercial transactions and cash will be gone.
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Originally Posted by Covenant Heart View Post
H O R S E - F E A T H E R S !

Ever consider that since we are all born dead in trespasses and sins, we come with the 'mark' in the first place? I suppose then that the means by which we could be saved would be to receive the mark of God, the seal of the Holy Spirit, which is the reality to which the baptismal sign of water points. Interestingly enough, my faith tradition puts the baptismal sign of water in the same place where John portrays Mr. Beastie as putting his.

How cool is that?
You MUST keep in mind three things:
1. that the devil can only imitate what God does. He cannot put a spiritual seal on people.
2. that the devil will be cast down to the realm of the earth, therefore, the mark of the devil is in the realm of the earth but has spiritual implications in that people swear allegiance to the beast in direct opposition to God.
3. that the mark of the beast has a practical application in the real world...you can't buy or sell unless you take it.

Now, think of the implications of not taking the mark:
1. No food, shelter, clothing
2. No government program or utility
3. No business
4. No work
5. Apparently, no currency either

All of that involves buying and selling in today's world.
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