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Old 2nd December 2008, 04:16 PM
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It's not hate speech. Not in the least.
Okay. It's homophobic lecturing. Better?
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Old 2nd December 2008, 04:17 PM
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No. If these people were afraid of homosexuals, they wouldn't be in Castro.
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Old 2nd December 2008, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by twistedsketch View Post
No. If these people were afraid of homosexuals, they wouldn't be in Castro.
Xenophobia doesn't stop people from say, entering ethnic areas and spewing hate speech.

Why should homophobia stop a bunch of anti-gay, so-called Christians from declaring gays disgusting in a gay district? If anything, the homophobia probably motivated them.

Anyways, they weren't wanted, they're annoying, and hopefully they will now understand that gays, as well as at least one heterosexual, white chocolate mocha obsessed person also find their prescence uneeded, unwarranted, and a distraction when trying to get things done.

It's sad that it came down to violence, and it's not something I can condone. But I think it's understandable why the homosexual community rioted.
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Old 2nd December 2008, 04:32 PM
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Phobia indicates a fear. Most Christians who are accused of being homophobic are not afraid of homosexuals.

Also, these people were not Phelps-style people at all. They weren't going all fire-and-brimstone. And this judging of their motives is nothing short of hypocritical. Furthermore, if this is a response to the gay demonstrations that have been making the news, I'd say the Christians are coming out on top. They didn't attack anybody, let alone an elderly woman. They didn't enter any gay bars or even voice any sort of anger with what they were doing. That speaks to a better motive than fear or hatred or spite. And even if it was motivated by any of those, they sure handled themselves with a lot more class than the folks on the other side of the aisle in spite of such a motive.
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Originally Posted by Quirk View Post
I'm all for democracy, but given how annoying public evangelical demonstrations are, I can't blame the Castro population for getting annoyed. It's extremely annoying and a disruption, when one is just trying to get a coffee or run into a store downtown, and someone tries to hand you a "Jesus Loves You!" pamphlet, and tries to start a worship sing-a-long. It must've been ten times worse in this case to be a homosexual who's being lectured to.
um, sweetie pie, they werent handing out tracts. they werent "evangelizing" as most people would define that term. they were on a street corner, yes. BUT they were not up in anyones face or saying anything offensive...they were just minding their own business.

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And considering they've been described as "Anti-Gay Christians" I don't see how hiding behind a Christian label somehow makes the fact that people rioted against them such a tragedy. It's hate speech - just because you declare you're doing God's Will, going into a safe-area for homosexuals and making a bunch of homophobic remarks isn't classy.
oh...these people are not "anti-gays." i think that term describes people from around here in the south. they shout angry remarks and wave pistols and shotguns at lgbt (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender for those who dont know) events. that would count as "anti-gay"
*the above was a dramatization and over exaggeration...sorry



as far as you sipping your white mocha latte, go for it babes. the more you drink, the less white chocolate garbage there is for me to deal with. im not really a white chocolate guy. now, im not condoning their behavior, on either side. i promise im not. i am interested in hearing opinions. its cool stuff

also, i dont think that the castro district is a "safe zone." im not really sure what you mean by that. theres places like chinatown in the NYC that has a large population of asians. that doesnt really make it a "safe zone" for the asian population that lives there. all it really means is that, theres a lot of asians that, well...um, live there...


yeah, i dont really remember what all else was said. homophobic people are people that are scared of homosexuals. and actually, the ones i know are also scared of bisexuals and trasgender too. so the name is a generalized thing. i have friends that are homophobic and will leave a restaurant if they think someone in there is gay. its happened before. so theyre not really the people that hand out tracts...those people are just inconsiderate evangelicals that dont really know how to love people as Christ did.
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Yeah, I don't get how you can be in the wrong by sitting on a street corner singing & worshipping in a group, no matter where you are. Anyone care to remind me of the environments Jesus walked into & began to preach? Furthermore, how about the crowd reception? And He knew what He was getting into. Was He in the wrong too?
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If indeed these Christians were "causing trouble," and escorted away by police at the end of their "demonstration," they're in good company - it happened to Paul and Silas once in Acts 16. I'd like to get the full story here, but it's one thing to get annoyed because of viewpoints you disagree with and another thing to pour coffee on people, pushing them, and threatening to kill them. Tolerance works both ways, folks.
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