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Reps: 619,160,853 (power: 619,166) | | Originally Posted by JasonV  I rather doubt that the endless lists of genealogy in the Bible are "god breathed". And that's just one example.
Genealogies do not make the most exciting reading, but genealogy was essential to the constitution of Israel, based as it was on tribal inheritance rights that protected against excessive difference between rich and poor, and influence of outside paganism. In some, perhaps all cases, meanings of names, whether listed in genealogies or elsewhere, are thought to be significant.
It would be interesting to know what else is considered less than divinely inspired. The view of some is that God did not waste his breath at all, and that every word of Scripture exists for a purpose, and is to be read. With the exception of unfulfilled prophecy, all of Scripture, when understood, is thought to be of value, so that 'the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work'. |
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Reps: 18,944,763,352,946,140 (power: 18,944,763,352,955) | | Originally Posted by ebia Why? They may be boring to modern ears, but they are part of the structure and story.
It's not about being boring. It's about an obvious attempt by men to pretend that God cares one wit about genealogy or blood lines. As if such things were divinely approved.
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3rd December 2008, 07:01 PM
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Reps: 619,160,853 (power: 619,166) | | Originally Posted by JasonV It's about an obvious attempt by men to pretend that God cares one wit about genealogy or blood lines.
Why is it obvious? |
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Reps: 18,944,763,352,946,140 (power: 18,944,763,352,955) | | Originally Posted by calluna Why is it obvious?
What other motivation would there be for keeping such things other than to maintain a bogus status-quo?
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3rd December 2008, 07:33 PM
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Reps: 619,160,853 (power: 619,166) | | Originally Posted by JasonV What other motivation would there be for keeping such things other than to maintain a bogus status-quo?
Perhaps there really is a God who has taken an interest in mankind and his problems. |
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Reps: 18,944,763,352,946,140 (power: 18,944,763,352,955) | | Originally Posted by calluna Perhaps there really is a God who has taken an interest in mankind and his problems.
Does not explain maintaining man-made monarchies and elitist propaganda.
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3rd December 2008, 08:33 PM
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Reps: 619,160,853 (power: 619,166) | | Originally Posted by JasonV Does not explain maintaining man-made monarchies and elitist propaganda.
What man-made monarchies and elitist propaganda? |
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Reps: 18,944,763,352,946,140 (power: 18,944,763,352,955) | | Originally Posted by calluna What man-made monarchies and elitist propaganda?
Well if you've ever read any of the Old Testament, you'll discover the royal line of King David as a man-made monarchy. As for elitist propaganda, just a cursory examination of the OT reveals this non sense about Israel being God's elect people.
That's a start.
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3rd December 2008, 10:07 PM
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Reps: 619,160,853 (power: 619,166) | | Originally Posted by JasonV Well if you've ever read any of the Old Testament, you'll discover the royal line of King David as a man-made monarchy.
Not according to the Bible. As for elitist propaganda, just a cursory examination of the OT reveals this non sense about Israel being God's elect people.
That's also untrue.
It is just not good enough to jump in with the word 'obvious' and then have to defend it with contentious and irrelevant remarks of this nature, that look like the pure repetitious falsehood and bigotry that has been dealt with many a time in atheist forums.
One is willing to assist serious seekers after truth, but this is unacceptable. I suggest that such a view and attitude are completely out of place in this venue, and should be disregarded. |
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Reps: 481,213,167,237,329,856 (power: 481,213,167,237,361) | | Originally Posted by JasonV It's not about being boring. It's about an obvious attempt by men to pretend that God cares one wit about genealogy or blood lines. As if such things were divinely approved.
If that's what you think their purpose in the text is then I can see your problem. That might even be part of the human motivation for including them, but their 'divine' purpose as in the text - making connections, highlighting patterns, providing structure - would seem as good a contender for divine inspiration as anything else.
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