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Old 19th November 2008, 04:03 PM
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have you not read,what God has spoken unto you?

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Divine authority??????

"The Pope is of so great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws."

I know this is what is believed, the evidence is in indulgences for one thing. Truly this is a proclamation that I would be scared of if I were raising my family in the Roman church.

Is the above statement which was taken from an 18th century Catholic encyclopedia troublesome to those currently bound by the Roman system?
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Old 19th November 2008, 04:46 PM
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I don't think so, Simon. I never believed such a ridiculous statement
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Old 19th November 2008, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by callitfreedom View Post
I don't think so, Simon. I never believed such a ridiculous statement
Did you believe indulgences or doing specific prayers or making journeys (forget what they are called) to special places stated by popes affected either your eternal or temporal punishments?
If the answer is yes then you in fact did believe such a ridiculous statement
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making journeys (forget what they are called)
pilgramages
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Originally Posted by simonthezealot View Post
Did you believe indulgences or doing specific prayers or making journeys (forget what they are called) to special places stated by popes affected either your eternal or temporal punishments?
If the answer is yes then you in fact did believe such a ridiculous statement
How do you arrive to that conclusion?
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Old 19th November 2008, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhamiel View Post
pilgramages
Rhamiel, whats the eternal or temporal benefit of a pilgrimmage?
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Old 19th November 2008, 05:07 PM
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a pilgrimmage can be a form of penance, and thus be used to lessen the temporal punishment for sins, it has no effect on the eternal punishment
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Old 19th November 2008, 05:12 PM
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How do you arrive to that conclusion?
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a pilgrimmage can be a form of pennance, and thus be used to lessen the temporal punishment for sins, it has no effect on the eternal punishment
That there is declaring divine law...
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Old 19th November 2008, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by simonthezealot View Post
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That there is declaring divine law...
I never saw it that way, anyway, who cares now?
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a pilgrimmage can be a form of pennance, and thus be used to lessen the temporal punishment for sins, it has no effect on the eternal punishment

Who came up with this stuff and when? Peter/Paul didn't teach this..
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