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29th November 2003, 02:49 PM
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Reps: 788 (power: 0) | | | EvolutionISM is an elaborate fairy tale EvolutionISM, as in evolution being a religious doctrine in all forms, is a fairy tale. This is because evolution is a scientific theory, not a religious doctrine. Evolution is a form of long-term change (in its most basic form).
EvolutionISM does not exist, the Theory of Evolution does.
To state that it is propagated by atheists and scientists who wish to refuse the word of God without any evidence is nothing but a mindless statement.
Let us apply logic to the proposed situation:
All people who believe in evolution will eventually write out the word of God, becoming more or less atheists.
Considering the fact that there are christians on this forum, who believe in evolution, I suggest those with that opinion speak to them directly. There is little proof that this is true, other than the fact that evolution contridicts biblical literalism.
I find that these blind accusations are without just cause, and are instead an attempt to falsify evolution through a religious bias. However, evolution, not being a religion itself, can not apply in the religious realm (in the attempt of disproving it through that method).
How can it be called a religion?
There is no evolutionary doctrine of faith, it has no place of worship, it is not even recognized as a religion. It does not share the characteristics that make a religion a religion. It does not deny the existance or approve of the existance of a diety or supernatural power, and thus can not be counted as a religion.
A religion is defined as a devotion to a faith or observance, its beliefs and practices; an institutionalized faith in the supernatrual.
Evolution is defined as the historical development of biological groups.
Unless one toys with and alters words and their meanings, it is completely untrue to call evolution a religion.
However, let us say that evolution is dominated by and propogated by atheists, to support their religious belief. Even given this possibility, due to the fact that evolution itself is not a religious belief, means that it is still not a religious belief. When removing the bias of religion of it, it is still apparent that it is a religious belief.
An equivalent statement would be: if a gun can be used to kill people, does that make the gun evil?
The answer would be no, because the gun is but a device which can be horribly misused. The same applies here. If evolution contridicts biblical literalism, does that make it a religion?
This argument, either way, has nothing to do with the scientific teaching of evolution, but is instead an attempt to explain a non-existant religious side to a scientific theory. No explaination can remove the fact that the heart of evolution lies in the fact that evolution is a scientific theory. If it was based on religion, it would have its own doctrine and series of beliefs based in the belief of God or some other supernatural power (or diety). However, even the most indirect observation of evolution shows that this can not be true.
EvolutionISM does not equate to Evolution, therefore, and has no place whatsoever in this forum, even if it were to exist. | 
29th November 2003, 03:10 PM
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29th November 2003, 03:22 PM
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29th November 2003, 05:26 PM
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In Darwin's book, he is constantly quoting sources.
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29th November 2003, 06:17 PM
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However, many Young Earth Creationists seem to treat evolution as a religious doctrine. | 
30th November 2003, 06:57 PM
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You forgot - theistic evolution.
__________________ "to give truth to him who loves it not is only to give him more plentiful material for misrepresentation." - George MacDonald "The foundationless, fantastic edifice of the evolution doctrine would long ago have met with its long deserved fate were it not that the love of fairy tales is so deep-rooted in the hearts of man." - Albert Fleischmann | 
1st December 2003, 01:16 AM
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Reps: 13 (power: 0) | | Evolution forgets the part where God created soul life in animals and people. In truth, the Bible states that "The life of the flesh is in the blood." So, how does evolution take into account the fact that each and every person has a soul?
Many people say the brain has evloved a great deal (in that dinasaurs had a brain the size of a pea -- pea brain!) However, the truth of the matter is that your thinking takes place in your mind and your mind is in your soul. When you die, you are still alive because your soul has departed from your body and you can still think! The brain is nothing. So, evolution is just a myth. | 
1st December 2003, 01:21 AM
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Though I do see how they think the brain is nothing by seemingly not using it at all. | 
1st December 2003, 01:34 AM
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What about Angels? Do they have brains? Are they "biological nonsense" too? Maybe God created Angels with BIG BRAINS sticking out of their heads? Wake up and smell the bacon!
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1st December 2003, 01:36 AM
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Acute or Obtuse?
And yes - angels are biological nonsense. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |