If sexual orientation is going to define a new minority classification under federal law and get access to children in schools, Christian life as defined in the Christian scriptures details a certain kind of sexual orientation.
In reality, presenting another sexual orientation.
Shouldn't Christians be allowed access to children in schools under the civil rights issue of sexual orientation?
Christians don't represent a separate sexual orientation. I'm heterosexual. I am married. I engage in sex with my husband. We are not Christians. Christians don't have some sort of "special sex" that would warrant giving them their own classification.
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'Christian' is a pretty broad definition. There are plenty of Christians on these boards alone that differ with you, Polycarp_fan, on many areas of thought. Most are heterosexual, some are homosexual. How exactly does his supposed, Christian sex orientation apply to them all?
__________________ From childhoods hour I have not been
as others were. I have not seen
as others saw. I could not bring
my passions from a common spring.
From the same source I have not taken
my sorrow. I could not awaken
my heart to joy at the same tone.
All I loved, I loved alone. Edgar Allen Poe
Christians don't represent a separate sexual orientation. I'm heterosexual. I am married. I engage in sex with my husband. We are not Christians. Christians don't have some sort of "special sex" that would warrant giving them their own classification.
Why not? Homosexuals demand "special rights" because they have "special sex" but as to the rest - yes christians who are bonded by God in Holy matrimony enjoy being one in spirit as well as physically.
Thats pretty special if you ask me. Seems just as valid as well since its something special no other group has since that seems to be to some a valid basis to be given special rights.
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'Christian' is a pretty broad definition. There are plenty of Christians on these boards alone that differ with you, Polycarp_fan, on many areas of thought. Most are heterosexual, some are homosexual. How exactly does his supposed, Christian sex orientation apply to them all?
Sexuality, "fornication," marriage, adultery, immorality and holiness is spelled out in no uncertain terms FOR Christians by the writers of the New Testament. Even infidelity and the need to repent and return to the Christian life.
The sexual orientation detailed for Christians is there for all to see from beggining to end.
It is man to woman, in a marriage, as described by Jesus and reiterated by His Disciples and Apostles.
The Church:
Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call."
With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, "Save yourselves from this corrupt generation."Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day. The Fellowship of the Believers
They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles.
All the believers were together and had everything in common.
Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.
Keep on loving each other as brothers. Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it. Remember those in prison as if you were their fellow prisoners, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.
Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.
Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,
"Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you."So we say with confidence,
"The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid.
What can man do to me?"
Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.
- Acts
Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?"
"What did Moses command you?" he replied.
They said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away." "It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law," Jesus replied.
"But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.'
'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."
- Gospel of Mark
The sin and doom of Godless men
Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.
For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you.
They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
- Jude
Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul. 1Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.
- 1 Peter
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up.
Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
- 2 Peter
I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked men, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.
You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary.
Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken your first love.
Why not? Homosexuals demand "special rights" because they have "special sex" but as to the rest - yes christians who are bonded by God in Holy matrimony enjoy being one in spirit as well as physically.
Thats pretty special if you ask me. Seems just as valid as well since its something special no other group has since that seems to be to some a valid basis to be given special rights.
Equal rights are not special rights.
As for "special sex" I can only say that posts here support the notion that some Christians have a "special" affinity for being a little too deeply involved in sexual fantasy.
__________________ If when we judged others our real motive was to destroy evil, we should look for evil where it is to be found, and that is in our own hearts. But if we are on the lookout for evil in others, our real motive is obviously to justify ourselves, for we are seeking to escape punishment for our own sins by passing judgment on others, and are assuming by implication that the Word of God applies to ourselves in one way, and to others in another (Bonhoeffer, Cost of Discipleship).
Why not? Homosexuals demand "special rights" because they have "special sex" but as to the rest - yes christians who are bonded by God in Holy matrimony enjoy being one in spirit as well as physically.
Thats pretty special if you ask me. Seems just as valid as well since its something special no other group has since that seems to be to some a valid basis to be given special rights.
"Special sex"? Exactly what kind of sex do homosexual couples engage in that heterosexual couples do not.
In any case, the right to marry has very little to do with sex, and much more to do with love and commitment. You don't hear the argument that straight couples only get married for sexual reasons.
Who you you sleep with, is only a small part of a persons identity, a small part of a loving, relationship, and yet it is that small element which those opposed to gay marriage seem to focus on obsessively.
__________________ From childhoods hour I have not been
as others were. I have not seen
as others saw. I could not bring
my passions from a common spring.
From the same source I have not taken
my sorrow. I could not awaken
my heart to joy at the same tone.
All I loved, I loved alone. Edgar Allen Poe
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