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Originally Posted by Alexandrah View Post
Ha. or people think you're goth or something.
Reptiles get no love. Animals without fur deserve love too.
I get angry when I walk into a pet store and see dying lizards with broken tails that are starving to death, yet if there was a puppy in a cage in the same store people would be calling the humane society in mass numbers
Actually a lot of my friends involved in making regular rounds to the chain pet stores take the same care in reviewing the conditions of the critters many don't consider cute as they do checking out the furry ones. A lot of the chains no longer sell puppies, making the small animals, birds, fish and reptiles the ones subject to inept care and its on their behalf reports get made.

We're not thrilled with the idea of breeding domestic pets and buying pets from pet stores or breeders period (no matter what kind of pet it is), and wish that pet stores would stick to selling supplies and pet owners would stick to taking in the critters that need rescuing, not those that are reproduced for our personal interest in having a pet.
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most of the straight women i know really want to have a gay son for some reason.
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Originally Posted by acropolis View Post
most of the straight women i know really want to have a gay son for some reason.
It's so they can have someone to keep them fashionable in their old age.
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Originally Posted by Wiccan_Child View Post
It's so they can have someone to keep them fashionable in their old age.
Well then they don't wish for my cousin and his husband.. I don't think either of them has been to a store other than sears or Target in years.
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Originally Posted by WatersMoon110 View Post
I don't understand how anyone could hate, let alone abandon their gay child. Personally, I would be overjoyed if my child was gay. Because gay people don't tend to have unintentional pregnancies! Not that I wouldn't be happy to have a straight, bisexual, asexual, transsexual, or intersexed child as well. I hope to love my children for who they are. Also, teach them about safer sex practices, and emphasize using condoms.

I just wanted to see a less negative topic on the first page. *grin* Also, I'm a very bored insomniac.
Talk about BIAS. Homosexuals, are not supposed to be having children. They need someone of the opposite sex to do their dirty work. I just love to know what you'd tell that child if they ever informed you that their partner has HIV and the condom you supplied him with broke. "Oh well, you win some and you lose some. Better luck next time?"

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Originally Posted by acropolis View Post
most of the straight women i know really want to have a gay son for some reason.
Just how many "straight" women do you actually know, and on which side of the tracks do they live?
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I would be disappointed if my child ended up gay, I wouldn't live him/her any less, but I would be disappointed as I want my children to be heterosexual.
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Originally Posted by LittleNipper View Post
Talk about BIAS. Homosexuals, are not supposed to be having children. They need someone of the opposite sex to do their dirty work. I just love to know what you'd tell that child if they ever informed you that their partner has HIV and the condom you supplied him with broke. "Oh well, you win some and you lose some. Better luck next time."
Faulty condoms and HIV/AIDS are risks any couple makes, heterosexual or otherwise.
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Originally Posted by WatersMoon110 View Post
I don't understand how anyone could hate, let alone abandon their gay child. Personally, I would be overjoyed if my child was gay. Because gay people don't tend to have unintentional pregnancies! Not that I wouldn't be happy to have a straight, bisexual, asexual, transsexual, or intersexed child as well. I hope to love my children for who they are. Also, teach them about safer sex practices, and emphasize using condoms.

I just wanted to see a less negative topic on the first page. *grin* Also, I'm a very bored insomniac.

I would not abandon a child for their sexual orientation but they sure would know how much I would never condon it. If you believe in God then you believe in truth and I taught my children the truth. They know what sin is and how when engaged in you face the consequences of it.
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I would be disappointed if my child ended up gay, I wouldn't live him/her any less, but I would be disappointed as I want my children to be heterosexual.

Why disappointment? I'm curious because when I talk to people on an email list I'm on who express their disappointment at discovering their children are gay I'm truly kind of confused. I understand the fears, the concerns about their child being the target of violence, I don't understand disappointment.

Some people say they think about the grandkids they'll never have or the weddings they imagined etc. I guess I'm strange. I thought about grandchildren not one bit until there was one, he's here, he's awesome, his pic is up there. But he was not some imaginary baby I couldn't wait for one of my kids produce.

They think about the "normal" life they imagined. Maybe that's where I get lost, "normal" isn't part of my expectations. I am disappointed by things like being cruel. I don't know why my kids orientation would disappoint me. To me that would be like being disappointed that my kid had green eyes.

I tried to think of it in terms of being disappointed that my niece has medical problems and is developmentally disabled. I am disappointed for her though. Because of the things she cannot have access to. For my child who is gay I may be disappointed for her if she cannot legally get married someday and that's what she wants to do. I may be sad if she is hurt by some bigot. But those things would be the same for any of my children. Their orientation doesn't create a situation for me to be disappointed about.

I'm sorry if I sound like I'm picking at you, I'm not, your comment just reminded me of so many parents of GLB kids on my e mail list and their reaction to discovering their kids were gay-- some are conservative Christians and I understand their disappointment is that they believe their child is not living under their beliefs and the teachings of their churches. I understand that, don't agree with it, but I get where that disappointment comes from.

Otherwise I have a hard time comprehending that disappointment.
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