(FSGs) Forum-specific Guidelines for Spirit-filled/Charismatic
The FSGs for the Spirit-Filled forum need to be updated, primarily to include information on the new debate subforum and thus to update the additional rules on debate. The "No Debate" tag will no longer be applicable.
This policy discussion is open to staff and members who post or moderate in SF/C. While we are not specifically looking to change other parts of the FSGs, we can certainly entertain discussions if there are other issues that need to be raised and discussed.
The Administrators will review this thread and will take your concerns and suggestions into consideration as they develop the final FSGs.
To get the discussion started, here is a draft FSG, based on the current FSGs, with suggested changes to the Additional Guidelines on Debate section:
These guidelines do not replace the site-wide rules, but rather clarify the rules as they are applied to Congregational forums.
Therefore, posters in this forum and its subforums must post in conformance with all of the following:
Forum-specific Guidelines (FSGs) for the Spirit-Filled, Charismatic Forum
The Congregation-Wide Guidelines apply to this forum. They outline the basic membership and debate guidelines for this forum. Additional guidelines are explained below.
Additional guidelines on debate:
The main forum is restricted to fellowship posts.
All discussion/debate/teaching threads will be moved to the Debate subforum.
The Word of Faith and the Charismatic subforums have their own FSGs, which apply in those subforums.
Statement of Faith
For the purposes of this forum, Charismatic/Spirit-filled is defined as follows:
Spirit-Filled, Pentecostal and/or Charismatic believers can be from any denomination. They are those who believe that all the various spiritual gifts (or charisms) listed in the New Testament (including but not limited to the manifestations gifts found in I Corinthians 12:8-10) are active in the Church today and desirable in the life of the individual believer, for the edification of the Body of Christ. It is not required that the individual exercises/exhibits any specific spiritual gift(s).
"Cessationists," for the purpose of this forum, applies to anyone who believes that the spiritual gifts are no longer in use today. While they consider themselves filled with the Spirit, they would deny that the gifts of the Spirit manifest in the lives of believers today.
Special Issues
CONCERNING PROPHESY, we believe that both the manifestation of the Gift of Prophesy and the office of the prophet are active in the church today. We also believe that the prophetic can come from any believer and is manifested in several ways, from a message of edification and exhortation to cautions regarding future events. Regardless of the type of prophetic word, our measuring line is the Word of God. Rules for posting prophesy include:
1) The OP must start the thread Title with "Prophesy: " This will easily identify the threads.
2) Because the web and this forum is a very open place, personal prophesy will not be allowed. You can PM or email a personal word to the individual.
3) Unless directly quoting scripture, a "thus saith the Lord" should not be used.
__________________ Many people think that the question should be: have you made Jesus your Lord? Have you invited him unreservedly into your heart? Have you completely dedicated every part of yourself and your life to him?
The trouble is that when we are truthful, the answer must always be "No." So let's ask the question a different way.
Has Jesus given everything for you? Has he dedicated his whole life to you? Has he invited you into his heart? And the answer to that is a glorious and gracious and conscious, freeing, comforting YES!
(paraphrased from Pastor Wolfmueller, Table Talk Radio)
Assumption Theology - reading a verse or verses and then assuming what they mean, not based on what the verses are actually saying, but what you interpret them as meaning.
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Not quite. When you die, your body dies. It is not "healed". It "dies". Your spirit lives on for eternity, but your body is not "ultimately healed". It is dead.
Spirit-Filled, Pentecostal and/or Charismatic believers can be from any denomination. They are those who believe that all the various spiritual gifts (or charisms) listed in the New Testament (including but not limited to the manifestations gifts found in I Corinthians 12:8-10) are active in the Church today and desirable in the life of the individual believer, for the edification of the Body of Christ. It is not required that the individual exercises/exhibits any specific spiritual gift(s).
"Cessationists," for the purpose of this forum, applies to anyone who believes that the spiritual gifts are no longer in use today. While they consider themselves filled with the Spirit, they would deny that the gifts of the Spirit manifest in the lives of believers today.
it's not that Pentecostal beliefs are any different, but their church is structured differently and is a specific denomination, whereas Charismatics can come from any faith. that's why they were separated out and given their own forum.
First of all, moderating this forum I can see is a monumentous task.....I don't know how many moderators there are but there are so many threads it is astounding!
As far as SF goes.....I was wondering if there would be a way to make it clearer, like larger type or something on which SF forum is debate and which one isn't?
I noticed that alot of people, especially newbies, either miss it, that the one forum is 'no debate' or that they don't understand what no debate means.
Also, one problem that I have had is that if one reports a post it stops and sometimes ends the entire thread. It is like punishing a person for trying to help keep the rules. What could be done about that? Or is it easier to hold/stop the thread and fix it before continuing?
I don't know if it was coincidental or what, but my e-mail forwarding features also quit working once I reported a few posts and have been told by other posters that this happens when you get 'out of line' and they will say to go to the tech area but that it never gets fixed......this makes me feel like I can't trust the moderators and I don't like that feeling.......I would like that clarified and to feel that the moderators are straight forward with me. If I"m out of line on something I"d like to know and have the same rules apply to everyone......
__________________ .....His body was broken for us, His blood spilled....
.....Bread and Wine Ministries (url is in my profile)
....God's heart to the world....
Luke 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
Luke 13:32....Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures....
As this "Special Issues" is included it appears it is for possible reconsidering as well.
I would suggest this statement be reconsidered.
Special Issues
CONCERNING PROPHESY, we believe that both the manifestation of the Gift of Prophesy and the office of the prophet are active in the church today. We also believe that the prophetic can come from any believer and is manifested in several ways, from a message of edification and exhortation to cautions regarding future events. Regardless of the type of prophetic word, our measuring line is the Word of God.
The gift of Prophecy is for edification, exhortation and comfort. 1 Cor. 14:3
This gift may come from a believer as the Spirit wills, but does not speak of future events.
The Office of the Prophet is a "called" office by God and when speaking of future events is a manifestation of the word of knowledge and/or word of wisdom.
I have some concerns. The link i'm going to post is just an example. Un-based accusations and veiled threats and subtle intimidation are no place for a 'helping' thread that is said to be started to assist in healing those with serious problems and are in a vulnerable state.
I happened to be reading the thread and i was thrown through a loop that post-ers, merely attempting to clarify what the Bible says, were accused of debating and de-railing the thread...and it was insinuated that anyone that asks a question, no matter how benign, is seen as a trouble-maker and/or debating, and it was understoods that those post-ers posts would be removed, no questions asked, by moderators.
I posted a 2-word statement, asking for clarification. I got the same response.
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To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge" --Ravi Zacharias
‘If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents—the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else’s. But if their thoughts—i.e. of materialism and astronomy—are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It’s like expecting that the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milkjug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.’
C.S. Lewis
"God is in the rain."~Evey in V for Vendetta
"Strength is born in the deep silence of long suffering hearts; not amid joy." Felicia Hemans
"The unexamined life is not worth living". ~Socrates
i hated it when God insisted i "yawp!"
but He knew i must,
and that my life would not begin,
until i yawped.
We all must learn to yawp.
we MUST awaken the passion,
that part of us that feels intensely,
and is NOT afraid to say so
or to express it.
Otherwise we are just dead men walking.
my journal/blog:
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Last edited by brinny; 22nd October 2008 at 12:59 AM.
I would leave pentecostal in. Pentecostals are not a denomination but a movement with many denominations and fellowships in it. It would fit in the spirit filled classification of the forum. Especially since this is more of an open ended forum, unless we want to rename it just Charismatic and take the Spirit filled part out.
This is why it is essentially still linked to this forum. There is much in common.
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I think prophesy is open to the same abuses that we saw in the deliverance and spiritual warfare forum, and dont think it should be allowed.
Whats to stop some noob who wants to take a person down a peg or two PMing them an unsolicited "thus sayeth the Lord" nastiness
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"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. I am not afraid." - Marcus Aurelius
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