I don't know if it was coincidental or what, but my e-mail forwarding features also quit working once I reported a few posts and have been told by other posters that this happens when you get 'out of line' and they will say to go to the tech area but that it never gets fixed......this makes me feel like I can't trust the moderators and I don't like that feeling.......I would like that clarified and to feel that the moderators are straight forward with me. If I"m out of line on something I"d like to know and have the same rules apply to everyone......
There is nothing a staff member can do that affects your ability to forward emails except possibly a site wide ban. I would say it is a glitch and has nothing to do with getting 'out of line'.
But this thread is for discussion of the FSGs. What guidelines do you think are needed?
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I would leave pentecostal in. Pentecostals are not a denomination but a movement with many denominations and fellowships in it. It would fit in the spirit filled classification of the forum. Especially since this is more of an open ended forum, unless we want to rename it just Charismatic and take the Spirit filled part out.
This is why it is essentially still linked to this forum. There is much in common.
what you have said here is contradictory to the way the Admins have organized the congregational forums on CF.
Pentecostals are not still linked to this forum, but are clearly placed in the denominational grouping. as such they would be considered guests when posting here. the only 'link' is a directional one, pointing the way to their forum.
in this thread we are discussing things from a viewpoint of making them work on CF, and clarifying which denominations can post where and in what capacity. therefore it would be confusing to include Pentecostals in the forum guidelines when they already have their own forum in which to post.
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I guess this is a conversation to be had elsewhere, but I never considered Pentecostals as guests since they agree with the FSG's. They agree in the gifts of the spirit for today. Just like charismatic catholics or any other spirit filled person of any denomination.
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then you are both not understanding my reasoning, though i understand yours.
the Pentecostals do agree with the FSG's, because when the FSG's were written, the Pentecostal Sub Forum was a full part of the SF-PG.
after the FSG's were written the Admins divided the Congregational forums into two category groupings.
1. those who were organized by their chosen faith, historical practice, and belief doctrines into specific Christian Communities, and
2. those who came together from numerous backgrounds, drawn by their faith alone into Faith Groups.
by Admin decree the Pentecostals were put into the Christian Communities group, while the SF-C remained in the Faith Groups.
At the time of that dividing, a directional marker was left behind in our forum for both the new Pentecostal forum and the new Charismatic Catholic forum, so that new members comming to the SF-C after the division would know of their existance and where to find them.
after that dividing by the Admins, the oversight of the Pentecostals and Charismatic Catholics was given into their own forums, and no oversight of them was retained by the SF-C forum.
this is why i suggested that the word "Pentecostal" be dropped from our FSG's, recognizing that it's continued inclusion would imply an oversight relationship that no longer existed, and also that newcommers to the SF-C forum would not be confused--looking for a Pentecostal grouping that had since moved elsewhere.
and finally it was always the intent of CF that the members choose only one congregation as their home, and post as a guest in any other congregation.
Pentecostals and all others are welcome to post in the SF-C as guests because they have their own specific forums as their home, where they post as members.
and finally it was always the intent of CF that the members choose only one congregation as their home, and post as a guest in any other congregation.
Actually, that isn't the case. An example would be Reformed Baptists. They can post in the Baptist forum as members and SR - and even Fundamentalist Christian if that fits. There are Charismatic Baptists - they can be members of both the Baptist forum and Spirit-filled.
Erwin was clear that one could be a mmber of more than one congregation and I see no change in that since LeeD bought the site.
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Pentecostal is now a separate forum, so this needs to be changed to:
"Spirit-Filled Charismatic believers...."
I had used that terminology because even though Pentecostals have their own forum, they may also post in the SF/C main forum as part of the overarching Spirit-filled community. Do you think that they would feel disenfranchised if they were not specificially mentioned, or do you think that "Spirit-filled and Charismatic believers..." includes Pentecostals by definition? (as in "All Pentecostals are SF, but not all SF are Pentecostals" or something like that)
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I noticed that alot of people, especially newbies, either miss it, that the one forum is 'no debate' or that they don't understand what no debate means.
Also, one problem that I have had is that if one reports a post it stops and sometimes ends the entire thread. It is like punishing a person for trying to help keep the rules. What could be done about that? Or is it easier to hold/stop the thread and fix it before continuing?
You may be right, but if they do miss it, then the staff can gently correct them. Especially if we begin to move all the discussion/debate threads into the debate subforum, they'll get the idea.
As to the reporting process, moderator staff have discretion to close a thread if they think it is causing harm and will continue to do so. Most of the time they don't have to do that. WHen they do, it is often a precursor to a whole thread clean-up.
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The trouble is that when we are truthful, the answer must always be "No." So let's ask the question a different way.
Has Jesus given everything for you? Has he dedicated his whole life to you? Has he invited you into his heart? And the answer to that is a glorious and gracious and conscious, freeing, comforting YES!
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