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Originally Posted by Matthewj1985 View Post
Guess what else, dolphins are one of any like 3 species of higher level mammals that have sex strictly for pleasure. Of course you see a log of homosexuality in dolphins and what most resorts won't tell you is that dolphins often try and rape people in the "dolphin experience" type stuff.
Three species? I thought it was just humans and dolphins?

...

Ah. Wikipedia has, once again, shown me the light:

"It is a common myth that animals do not (as a rule) have sex for pleasure, or alternatively that humans (and perhaps cats, dolphins and one or two species of primate) are the only species which do."

I should've remembered non-human primates. Bonobos have sex for the slightest reasons; "Oh my God! Look at that tree! It's so brown! [boink boink]"


Just so you don't think I'm derailing the thread, here's my squirrel fact: squirrels bury nuts and other miscellanea. Some have learned to covertly watch other squirrels bury their stash, then sneak over later and steal it . And in the ever-escalating arms-race, some squirrels have taken to mime burying, just to fool any potential thieves! Clever buggers.
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I saw that red squirrel again today. A collegue of mine saw it too and agreed it was cute. I then told her that some red squirrels apparantly eat birds. She told me that this might be true for other red squirrels, but not for this one.

When I lived in America I had my first introduction to grey squirrels. I never imagined being able to see a squirrel as a pest, but I also never saw so many squirrels.
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There used to be a very cool program on TV when I was little called Daylight Robbery, all about squirals. They'd start off by showing an assult course that a squirrel had to travers to get peanuts, and then at then end show the squirrel completing it. One of these had a little cart that the squirrel had to push along with his paws. Also had a squirrel raiding a vending machine for chocolate.

I've never seen a red squirrel, they're nearly all gone in this country. There is a mutation that turns grey squirrels black.
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I never imagined being able to see a squirrel as a pest, but I also never saw so many squirrels.
Your opinion changes when you watch one take all the buds off your tulips, eat one, then discard the rest. So so my mother tells me.
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Originally Posted by Psudopod View Post
There used to be a very cool program on TV when I was little called Daylight Robbery, all about squirals. They'd start off by showing an assult course that a squirrel had to travers to get peanuts, and then at then end show the squirrel completing it. One of these had a little cart that the squirrel had to push along with his paws. Also had a squirrel raiding a vending machine for chocolate.
I have been trying to remember the name of that show all day. The complex systems they set up that the squirrels were able to navigate were pretty amazing.
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Originally Posted by Psudopod View Post
There used to be a very cool program on TV when I was little called Daylight Robbery, all about squirals. They'd start off by showing an assult course that a squirrel had to travers to get peanuts, and then at then end show the squirrel completing it. One of these had a little cart that the squirrel had to push along with his paws. Also had a squirrel raiding a vending machine for chocolate.

I've never seen a red squirrel, they're nearly all gone in this country. There is a mutation that turns grey squirrels black.
Black squirrels?

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No longer satisfied with their cute, furry, harmless image, squirrels have been showing their true colours in thousands of incidents. here are just a few:

" But this was no ordinary squirrel. This was not even an ordinary [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]ed-off squirrel. This was an evil attack squirrel of death!"

http://www.zelph.com/archives/2004/0...rrel-of-death/

"They are said to have scampered off at the sight of humans, some carrying pieces of flesh. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4489792.stm

“You might expect a mugging in the park, but not to be attacked by a tree rodent,” the 34-year-old Springfield resident said Monday. “I never thought a squirrel could kick my (behind).”

http://www.sj-r.com/homepage/x177679...ashington-Park
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Three species? I thought it was just humans and dolphins?

...

Ah. Wikipedia has, once again, shown me the light:

"It is a common myth that animals do not (as a rule) have sex for pleasure, or alternatively that humans (and perhaps cats, dolphins and one or two species of primate) are the only species which do."

I should've remembered non-human primates. Bonobos have sex for the slightest reasons; "Oh my God! Look at that tree! It's so brown! [boink boink]"


Just so you don't think I'm derailing the thread, here's my squirrel fact: squirrels bury nuts and other miscellanea. Some have learned to covertly watch other squirrels bury their stash, then sneak over later and steal it . And in the ever-escalating arms-race, some squirrels have taken to mime burying, just to fool any potential thieves! Clever buggers.

Bonobos actually have sex so much they are very hard to study. Here is another bombshell, since Bonobos have homosexual sex, are they evil?

Chimps are scary as crap. My little brother works at a zoo and says that chimps have the same types of personalties as humans, only difference being that an adult chimps arms are strong enough to litterly snap your arm like a dry twig. In the wild they will often kill and eat other chimps for no good reason. Not defending territory, just outright murder.

I have also heard that the major difference between humans and chimps was that our ancestors came down out of the trees and theirs did not. We started walking upright so we could see lions in the tall savanah grasses of Africa.
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Bonobos actually have sex so much they are very hard to study. Here is another bombshell, since Bonobos have homosexual sex, are they evil?

Chimps are scary as crap. My little brother works at a zoo and says that chimps have the same types of personalties as humans, only difference being that an adult chimps arms are strong enough to litterly snap your arm like a dry twig. In the wild they will often kill and eat other chimps for no good reason. Not defending territory, just outright murder.
They do it with humans too, and have a tendency for our babies...

Originally Posted by Matthewj1985 View Post
I have also heard that the major difference between humans and chimps was that our ancestors came down out of the trees and theirs did not. We started walking upright so we could see lions in the tall savanah grasses of Africa.
I read in a recent New Scientist article that there are two main ideas of why we evolved bipedal locomotion. The first says we became upright, then climbed down from the trees, and the second says we climbed down the trees, then became upright. The orangutan, for example, walks along the canopy upright, holding higher branches to support itself, and is thus an example of the former.
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Did you know that cats are one of the very few domestic creatures that would survive the worldwide extinction of humans? Cattle would be picked off by predators with newly found niches (coyotes taking the niche of wolves) and would be extinct within a year or 2. Dogs would start running in packs but would never be able to compete with native dogs live wolves and coyotes. Some bird species would survive in the right climate but cats are the only animals that retain most of their hunting instincts even through so many generations of domestication. The domestic cat is through to have evolved from a single cat species native to the middle east, I want to say that that species is actually extinct now.

Interesting cat facts though.
Domesticated dogs would breed freely with wolves, so the idea that they wouldn't be able to compete is a moot point.

Pigs would survive as well. There are large numbers of feral pigs in the Southeastern US, and they do quite fine in the wild. Interestingly, they revert morphologically to wild pigs with narrow skulls, long snouts and "razorback" hair. Feral pigs are also known to interbreed with wild pigs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boar
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