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15th October 2008, 11:52 PM
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Reps: 281,066,741,495,701,312 (power: 281,066,741,495,709) | | Originally Posted by stone  I've found where a eunuch has a place in God's heart even, and in today's society that would mean to those men that castrate themselves, that even they have room in his kingdom. A castrated man is still a man. A man will always have male chromosomes in their DNA, and that can't be changed. .
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“For neither does he [the Devil] seek those whom he has already subdued, nor does he take the trouble to overthrow those whom he has already made his own. The foe and enemy of the Church despises and passes by those whom he has alienated from the Church, and led without as captives and conquered; he goes on to harass those in whom he sees Christ dwell.” – Saint Cyprian (Epistle 56)
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16th October 2008, 12:33 AM
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Those "Anti-women's ordination" websites only explain the superficial reasons without getting at the root of it for why women can't be ordained.
Stone,
If you would like to know the deeper, more profound reasons why women can't be ordained, you can PM me about it.
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“For neither does he [the Devil] seek those whom he has already subdued, nor does he take the trouble to overthrow those whom he has already made his own. The foe and enemy of the Church despises and passes by those whom he has alienated from the Church, and led without as captives and conquered; he goes on to harass those in whom he sees Christ dwell.” – Saint Cyprian (Epistle 56)
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16th October 2008, 12:10 PM
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Reps: 176,280,132,234,744,160 (power: 176,280,132,234,763) | | Originally Posted by LivingWordUnity What you described is natural times of infertility. The Catholic Church is not against a man and his wife having sex during the time when she is naturally infertile because this is the way that God designed our bodies.
God said to be fruitful and multiply. And since every child is a gift from God, the Catholic Church teaches that Natural Family Planning is good as long as the man and wife remain open to the possibility of having a child together.
But contraception is an act by which a man and wife put an artificial barrier between each other to say no to the procreative aspect of marriage.
Natural times of infertility and menopause are God's doing whereas artificial contraception is man's doing.
ok, well, that makes sense.
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17th October 2008, 01:08 PM
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Reps: 176,280,132,234,744,160 (power: 176,280,132,234,763) | | | I've been thinking about this, and you know, if we do seek to do that which is pleasing to God, and to do that we have to search history to find what has been pleasing and then we can see that not only is it men that are priest, and then more specifically, levites, then it would be a logical conclusion that it is men priest that are pleasing to God.
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22nd October 2008, 05:39 AM
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He passes a course at some seminary or university or whatever that has an emphasis other than orthodoxy, then gets ordained to the priesthood by a bishop who also doesn't care too much for it (after serving as a deacon), then works his way up the ranks while attaining the political skills of Machiavelli, until eventually other like minded bishops lay hands on him, and " voila!"- he's a bishop. At least in name.
Thank the Lord those days are nearing their end! The love of orthodoxy is beginning to resurface, God be praised. 
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22nd October 2008, 05:42 AM
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Reps: 1,844,544,520,064,472,064 (power: 1,844,544,520,064,490) | | Originally Posted by stone I've been thinking about this, and you know, if we do seek to do that which is pleasing to God, and to do that we have to search history to find what has been pleasing and then we can see that not only is it men that are priest, and then more specifically, levites, then it would be a logical conclusion that it is men priest that are pleasing to God.
Not to mention that priests serve under a High Priest. According to the scriptures, our High Priest is Jesus Christ, and thus His priests must represent Him and do His work while He is not present in the earthly sense. They are icons of Him, and represent Him to the flock just as the priest represents the flock to God when he prays to Him on their behalf, through the mediation of Jesus.
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22nd October 2008, 03:06 PM
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22nd October 2008, 10:18 PM
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Reps: 1,844,544,520,064,472,064 (power: 1,844,544,520,064,490) | | Originally Posted by stone hey CM! i see your not modding any longer, taking a break ey?
Yeah, I'd had it. Too much effort for nothing but distain in return. I couldn't affod the time any longer. Now people can hate me for who I am, not just for being a mod. 
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31st October 2008, 06:00 AM
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Reps: 48,115,991,515,050,112 (power: 48,115,991,515,069) | | Originally Posted by stone Off the top of my head this is the only scripture that i could think of that mentions a woman participating in a sacrifice to the lord. Do you guys know of any others?
Here's another:
John 12:3Then Mary took about a pintof pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus' feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.
(I'm just visiting, hope that's ok!  )
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31st October 2008, 07:42 AM
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Reps: 6,558,148,398,438,421 (power: 6,558,148,398,447) | | Originally Posted by The Lord is my banner Here's another:
John 12:3Then Mary took about a pintof pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus' feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.
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A woman?!?! Performing an anointing?
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