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14th October 2008, 10:53 AM
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Reps: 370,064 (power: 373) | | Originally Posted by HaloHope  Legalisation of gay marriages is going to continue to happen in more places and is an important cultural change children should learn about. What you don't seem to understand is that marriage is a sacrament between man and woman, regardless of what our government says, and the point of that trip was not to teach them the truth, that the government is allowing people to go astray. |
14th October 2008, 10:59 AM
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Reps: 370,064 (power: 373) | | Originally Posted by Andreusz The best preparation for university (I speak as a university lecturer) is to be taught to think. Which means, among other things, being presented with different viewpoints, not being sheltered from reality. When you're in first grade, do you start showing kids instances of rape, murder, stealing, etc.? No ... You show them what's right, then when they're older, say, high school, you discuss what's wrong. Originally Posted by Andreusz You mean 'fewer college students'. 'Less' is used with uncountable things, e.g. 'less ignorance', 'less prejudice'. 'Fewer' is the correct word to use with countables. What if I meant the amount to be uncountable? |
14th October 2008, 11:01 AM
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Reps: 5,749,184,707,355,907 (power: 5,749,184,707,364) | | | I don't see anything wrong,as long as consent was given. (as it was in this case).
I certainly don't see the harm in showing children that when two people love each other they are prepared to commit themselves and do it legally if they so choose.
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14th October 2008, 11:10 AM
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Reps: 8,722,050,977 (power: 8,722,054) | | Originally Posted by AetheriusLamia What you don't seem to understand is that marriage is a sacrament between man and woman, regardless of what our government says, and the point of that trip was not to teach them the truth, that the government is allowing people to go astray.
What you don't seem to understand is that marriage being only between a man and woman is completely up for debate and peoples right to happiness cannot be trumped by other peoples personal religious beliefs. I mean not even all Christians think homosexuality is wrong and there are many non-Christians lives to consider too.
Government/Religion should be entirely separate, they have no business promoting any morality other than the sensible "do not hurt others". Children learning about other families out there is not a bad thing if it leads them to be more loving and accepting of those different from themselves. I'm going to be a parent in a same-sex family in the future, I don't want our children to suffer from lack of acceptance at school when it can and should be a non issue (fortunately in the UK its part of the normal curriculum in a lot of schools now).
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14th October 2008, 11:51 AM
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Reps: 33,707,381 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by HaloHope Meh, bit of a stupid decision on her part not to get parental consent to take the kids to her wedding, bound to stir up some controversy. But obviously id have no objection to someone taking my future kids to such an event for educational purposes assuming it was of relevance. Legalisation of gay marriages is going to continue to happen in more places and is an important cultural change children should learn about.
Schools always get parental consent for field trips. |
14th October 2008, 11:57 AM
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Reps: 8,722,050,977 (power: 8,722,054) | | Originally Posted by Crazy Liz Schools always get parental consent for field trips.
I vaguely remember going on them randomly when I was a kid without any letter or consent.
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14th October 2008, 11:58 AM
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Reps: 183,937,311 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AetheriusLamia What you don't seem to understand is that marriage is a sacrament between man and woman, regardless of what our government says, and the point of that trip was not to teach them the truth, that the government is allowing people to go astray.
FYI this is a secular government not a theocracy... |
14th October 2008, 12:13 PM
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Reps: 45,579,597,993 (power: 45,579,603) | | | I voted for public school even though I disagree with some of the things they do. I pay tax dollars to help those schools operate, and if I homeschool, I don't get a tax break. Neither I or my wife have the energy to homeschool, as we have 5 kids.
I'll just have to monitor what they learn, and correct any mistakes at home.
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14th October 2008, 12:18 PM
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Reps: 45,579,597,993 (power: 45,579,603) | | Originally Posted by HaloHope Government/Religion should be entirely separate, they have no business promoting any morality other than the sensible "do not hurt others". Yes, gov and religion should be separate but schools don't take field trips to regular weddings, why should they take trips to gay weddings? That's sick! This is indoctrination. This is this teacher's probably one and only chance to force gay education into the curriculum. That kind of stuff should be taught at home, whether gay or not, and not done by the shool system. Stick to english, math, science, history, etc. Leave the moral education, whether it's Biblical or immoral, to the parents. Parents can take their kids to a gay wedding if they want, it's not for the schools to do that.
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14th October 2008, 12:34 PM
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Reps: 33,707,381 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by jamielindas The question is...
Was this a school sponsored event or something organized by the students or parents of students?
If it wasn't a school sponsored thing... it doesn't matter. What people do with their own time, money and children has nothing to do with the state or state funded schools.
The answer to that was posted already. Originally Posted by Andreusz A parent suggested the trip as a surprise for the teacher, parental consent was asked for, and given in all but two cases ... and those two kids stayed home.
I'm sure this kind of thing has happened before when a teacher has gotten married. I know similar arrangements have been made for school children to attend religious services when a student or teacher has died.
Should a state-sponsored school allow that? |
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