The whole point is that you fill fasting with prayer, that's why it's called "prayer and fasting", and not just fasting Just my thoughts
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what you are talking about is obedience, right? Cause it's not like you would "fast" from porn and then go back to it cause what would be the point of fasting from it in the first place? But if you fast from food and set the time aside to pray and seek God's heart on the porn issue then (in knowing God's heart) you would have the strength to stay away from the sin, (Neh 8:10). Also fasting strengthens your spirit, just like running up hills prepares the athlete for the race.
what you are talking about is obedience, right? Cause it's not like you would "fast" from porn and then go back to it cause what would be the point of fasting from it in the first place? But if you fast from food and set the time aside to pray and seek God's heart on the porn issue then (in knowing God's heart) you would have the strength to stay away from the sin, (Neh 8:10). Also fasting strengthens your spirit, just like running up hills prepares the athlete for the race.
I couldn't agree more. If you are praying and fasting(food), and taking a serious focus on God, then how could you look up porn anyway during that fast? Just something to consider.
lol thats a little funny just to say we are wrong, so are you saying Jesus was wrong too for not eating? its not about not eatting its about getting close to God.
1 "Shout it aloud, do not hold back.
Raise your voice like a trumpet.
Declare to my people their rebellion
and to the house of Jacob their sins.
2 For day after day they seek me out;
they seem eager to know my ways,
as if they were a nation that does what is right
and has not forsaken the commands of its God.
They ask me for just decisions
and seem eager for God to come near them.
3 'Why have we fasted,' they say,
'and you have not seen it?
Why have we humbled ourselves,
and you have not noticed?'
"Yet on the day of your fasting, you do as you please
and exploit all your workers.
4 Your fasting ends in quarreling and strife,
and in striking each other with wicked fists.
You cannot fast as you do today
and expect your voice to be heard on high.
5 Is this the kind of fast I have chosen,
only a day for a man to humble himself?
Is it only for bowing one's head like a reed
and for lying on sackcloth and ashes?
Is that what you call a fast,
a day acceptable to the LORD ?
6 "Is not this the kind of fasting I have chosen:
to loose the chains of injustice
and untie the cords of the yoke,
to set the oppressed free
and break every yoke?
7 Is it not to share your food with the hungry
and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter—
when you see the naked, to clothe him,
and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood?
8 Then your light will break forth like the dawn,
and your healing will quickly appear;
then your righteousness will go before you,
and the glory of the LORD will be your rear guard.
9 Then you will call, and the LORD will answer;
you will cry for help, and he will say: Here am I.
"If you do away with the yoke of oppression,
with the pointing finger and malicious talk,
10 and if you spend yourselves in behalf of the hungry
and satisfy the needs of the oppressed,
then your light will rise in the darkness,
and your night will become like the noonday.
11 The LORD will guide you always;
he will satisfy your needs in a sun-scorched land
and will strengthen your frame.
You will be like a well-watered garden,
like a spring whose waters never fail.
12 Your people will rebuild the ancient ruins
and will raise up the age-old foundations;
you will be called Repairer of Broken Walls,
Restorer of Streets with Dwellings.
13 "If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath
and from doing as you please on my holy day,
if you call the Sabbath a delight
and the LORD's holy day honorable,
and if you honor it by not going your own way
and not doing as you please or speaking idle words,
14 then you will find your joy in the LORD,
and I will cause you to ride on the heights of the land
and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob."
The mouth of the LORD has spoken.
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lol thats a little funny just to say we are wrong, so are you saying Jesus was wrong too for not eating? its not about not eatting its about getting close to God.
That was my point, it's not about eating, and I was offering a different perspective.
No one seems to have caught the idea of fasting from that which makes you weak. Fasting from your sins.
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if people just starve themselfs and have no energy to pray then its bad I guess cos your not getting any closer...but not eatting and praying an reading bible then its all good.
Fasting from food AND as well as items of pleasure or problems are both justifiable, but that does not make the fasting from food any lesser form of fasting than any other kind. There is no "better" way to fast, provided there is prayer and a delightful heart behind it. Keep in mind that our "good works" are but a filthy rag to God. So instead of condemning one side of fasting and praising the other, why not uphold both perspectives? The OT AND NT make it clear that the common form of fasting is from food... to condemn this is folly...
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"14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 15 Now my eyes will be open and my ears attentive to the prayers offered in this place."
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