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knowing GOd as love and good

Hey I am posting this in hopes some other person has gone through a similar thing

I know in the past you guys have helped me so much which i thank you so much for.


right now..I sure want to know God as good and dependable.and loving..i have heard so much that He is..so much i heard and read He is..just never got it..or understood fully..

i was taught He is..but there were always BUTS and DO and DONTS..

i am reallizing i was caught in a legalistic mind set.and believed some false teachings and beliefs..caused so much pain and problems.cause me to fall away and give up on Jesus

I cant write everything right now..but my image of God is not good...so much so hard to talk to HIm and come to Him..want to know Him and desire Him..cause cant right now

anyone else can relate

God bless
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Brother... I am praying for you.. ((Hugs)) When I could not feel God I just took Him at His word.. and found HIM!!
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Maybe I cannot explain it to you in ways that answer you...

But I can show you that I really do care and pray that you see God in me.. loving you through me.. You know brother I have been here.. just believe me when I also say.. God has loved you far far longer then that.. I guess maybe he brought you and me together as friends..
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Hi brother this might be helpful.. when I started reading I thought of you..

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Al Thomas: "GOD IS NOT MAD AT YOU"
by Al Thomas
Oct 4, 2008
SAINTS HAD THEIR HEADS BOWED DOWN IN SHAME
WHILE PRAYING FOR THE CHURCH, I SAW A VISION (Joel 2:17) OF HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS AND THEN MILLIONS OF SAINTS WHO HAD THEIR HEADS BOWED down...as if in shame.
Although it is true that occasionally all of us fail God in one way or another, it is more so true that God forgives and restores (1 John 1:9-10).
Clearly, I saw that many of God's children are under the false impression and demonic delusion that God is displeased or disappointed with them. They imagine God in Heaven feverishly writing down every mistake and impure thought, and that He can't wait until they die or until Jesus comes back so they can be royally "chewed out."
Again (and this is important), it is true that some of God's children are following Him from afar (Matthew 26:58), simply not walking as close to Jesus as they could, and they need to do some serious turning back to the Lord (Hebrews 6:11-12).
Yet, for most, here is the real story: GOD IS LOVE...AND HIS LOVE IS POINT BLANK DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU (Romans 5:5).
Many are about to get a revelation of His love for them, and as a result, their entire attitude and outlook of their current situation will be radically changed. Worry will fade and faith will arise because of you being so secure and convinced of how much He cares for you (1 Peter 5:7).
AS THE CHURCH RECEIVES THIS REVELATION, MANY WILL START TO WALK IN GOD'S JOY INSTEAD OF SATAN'S GUILT
Satan wants you to feel guilty and be filled with shame. You can pray, read God's Word, go to church, etc. But still, satan will tell you that you should feel guilty about your life.
One of the greatest benefits you have as a child of God is experiencing His joy (John 15:11). This is not some vague, misty and occasional giddy feeling, but a spiritual inebriation that will not only produce constant peace, but will sometimes cause you to laugh at your biggest troubles. The Bible says you can do nothing against the truth (2 Corinthians 13:8), which means God is going to love you whether you accept it or not. So accept it and get on with His plan for you (Romans 8:31).
Some are under immense pressure and must learn that this joy has to be cultivated. That's why Paul said, "Rejoice in the Lord always, and again I say rejoice" (Philippians 4:4). Some, when first saved, did rejoice and rejoiced often. Then (as with all of us), troubles and temptations came and the joy seemed elusive.
God's joy often has to be fought for because satan will try very hard to convince you that you deserve guilt instead of joy. Remember, satan is a liar. Resist him (and the guilt) and start rejoicing by faith (Habakkuk 2:4; Romans 1:17).
Here is wisdom: we are most filled with joy when we are most filled with God's love. Therefore do this: Go into your prayer closet and begin to tell Him how much you love Him, how much you appreciate being saved and for being a child of His. If this is difficult, guess who is hindering you? (1 Thessalonians 2:18). Stay there for a while...His presence will begin to come and joy will result. This will be one of the proofs that He is not upset with you, but in love with you.
MANY WILL EXPERIENCE GOD'S APPROVAL INSTEAD OF PERSONAL SHAME
The Holy Spirit (when He speaks to us) encourages us to obedience. Satan discourages us to despair. God wants to remove the word "shame" from your life.
2 Corinthians 5:19 says, "God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting men's sins against them." He HAS forgiven you, He DOES love you, and He will NEVER leave you or forsake you (Psalm 37:25).
God knows you are fed up with discouragement and it is time to take back your victory. Get up, rebuke the devil, and get on with God's will for you (Romans 8:28). Jesus specifically said that the Holy Spirit would comfort us...not make us feel bad about ourselves (John 14:17). Every Believer has God's approval (Romans 5:1), which is based on the Cross, not anything you do.
MANY WILL NO LONGER FEEL UNWORTHY, BUT ACCEPTED BY THE FATHER
There is a no more exhilarating feeling than knowing you are accepted by the God of the universe (Ephesians 1:6). Satan makes you feel unworthy by "throwing the whole book" at you at one time. In other words, satan wants to get you focused on all of your failures at one time and overwhelm you with unworthiness.
God, when He desires to change us, usually deals with one thing at a time. "Grant me Thy law graciously" (Psalm 119:29b). God is in the business of convicting us (John 16:8), whereas satan is in the business of condemning us (1 Timothy 3:6).
However, we have passed from condemnation to acceptance (Romans 8:1). You must grasp this truth - that you are totally accepted by God - to walk in His joy. God accepts you because of what Jesus did (2 Corinthians 5:21), not because of what you have or have not done.
Who are you to judge yourself? (1 Corinthians 4:3). You are not qualified to judge yourself or anyone as unworthy...that is God's job. He'll do it much better than you (Romans 14:4).
MOST IMPORTANTLY, MANY WILL NO LONGER LEAN ON FEELINGS BUT ON THE HOLY SPIRIT AND HIS WORD
It is important that you try not to over analyze yourself. Satan tries to remind you of failings that God no longer remembers (Psalm 103:10). Often, after experiencing repeated carnal failings, we engage in over-actively, self-analyzing ourselves. Our thoughts start to go into overdrive which ends up with you feeling more negative towards yourself. Some even hate themselves.
Are we to listen to the conviction of the Holy Spirit? Of course. But even after God has forgiven, many listen to the condemnation of satan and mistakenly think it is God expressing His anger at them. Your Heavenly Father wants you to have the peace that Jesus promised (John 14:27), and much self-introspection makes life not peaceful, but stressful. We are most filled with peace when we know we are loved (2 Thessalonians 2:16).
If you keep listening to your feelings, you will lose your peace because you will dwell on the inconsistency that exists between your actual spiritual condition and your daily actions (Romans 7:15). You cannot keep probing your feelings and expect to walk in His peace. Instead you find out what His Word says of you...and trust that! Then and only then will you rest in what Christ has done for you, not what you have done or are doing.
Now is the time for you to walk in the Spirit (Romans 8:14) knowing that God is not mad at you...but glad over you (Zephaniah 3:17).
OK, you may start rejoicing now...
Al Thomas
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Abundant Life Fellowship (Fri 7:30pm, Sat & Sun 6pm)
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Contact: 301-839-7993

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This is a word for me too.. not just you.. I have not been walking in the joy.. Blessed be HIS name..
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Ha.. me again brother.. I just wanted you to know I placed you and Moriah on the prayer list at church.. Seeing you both are on my heart at this time.. We all need strength to see our break throughs come.. God is faithful and we can trust in HIM to do what needs doing and for us to overcome!!
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sigh...hello all again..i gots to come here..cause i gots no where to go

why are there so few actuall Jesus filled christians out there??..literally..I dont mean to sound harsh or condemning..but its like whenever i see christians i want to run away from them..though I am a christian myself

I am so in need of recovery in my life.but dread going to a church. or other christians..cause all I see is condemnation..its hurtful..cause i try to show patience understanding..and try to overlook it.cause they are loved by God..so i dont judge them..

but this is getting out of hand...I am a Christian yet i fear my brothers and sisters in Christ..i come on here..looking for encouragement..all i see is such division and hate..sorry to hate.but its true..hate

i am so looking for the truth...because I cant get it myself from reading the bible..cause it causes huge panic attacks and i cant understand it..i look to be taught the actual truth

i want for once to read something encouraging..and finish it feeling peaceful.and something good..but i read someting...it sounds really good..then i read alittle bit further..only for it to say BUT...BUT

what the hell..???..I read God is about freedom..grace.love goodness..giving without asking for anything??? makes me feel peace and joy inside..but before i get my hopes up..there are always BUTS!!..BUT you gotta do this..stop sinning..you gotta lay it all down..etc etc..gotta do this..gotta do that

[wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]!..im trying to get out of confusion and legalism..so bad..only to taste a little of heaven then be slammed right back down to being tied to laws and trying to figure out the truth from supposely 10 truths of one subject..

its like peopel teach grace..love and freedom..yet at the end of it..there are BUTS and DO NOTS..its like the very thing they preach against is the same thing they reinforce..

its about grace..BUT..its about love..BUT

sigh..I guess sinners and peopel who struggle and our in pain cant make it unless they get it all together..for anything..to be healed blessed or whatever..its all about grace and love..well there BUTS and Dos and Do nots..forumlas..freaking no end of forumlas..

what about the people who need help in order to overcome their sin or struggles in life?? freak it angers me..to no end.when there are stipulations on peoples lives in order to get help or healed....even doctors will help someone who is an addict if it will help them feel better..
but i gues thats not an opinion...i guess i gots to stop sinning in my own power to overcome it..

i guess being traumaized makes no difference in getting help? words mean jack !$$!# without action

sorry i had to vent.would be lying if i didnt say whats true on my heart..take it or leave it...

peace
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i apologize for the comments..i had to share..im just seeking for the truth.and it seems i get no where

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Peace.. brother.. Peace.. you said it.. Did you realise that is my name on here .. and you said something beautiful.. That is what I like.. Ha.. LORD just fill my brother with peace.. LORD.. fill him with joy.. there is nothing like it in the whole wide world.. because when we have it.. nothing nothing nothing can steal our heart away!! Amen
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Hey I am posting this in hopes some other person has gone through a similar thing

I know in the past you guys have helped me so much which i thank you so much for.


right now..I sure want to know God as good and dependable.and loving..i have heard so much that He is..so much i heard and read He is..just never got it..or understood fully..

i was taught He is..but there were always BUTS and DO and DONTS..

i am reallizing i was caught in a legalistic mind set.and believed some false teachings and beliefs..caused so much pain and problems.cause me to fall away and give up on Jesus

I cant write everything right now..but my image of God is not good...so much so hard to talk to HIm and come to Him..want to know Him and desire Him..cause cant right now

anyone else can relate

God bless
God does not want us to simply "follow the rules". He wants our hearts! When you truly give him your heart, you will WANT to obey him. You will want to spend time with him and serve him with all of your heart! You won't feel bogged down with so many rules. That is Satan who is trying to make you think that the Christian life is impossible and boring. Reject those lies in Jesus' name and put on the truth, the full armor of God. Read some encouraging scriptures. In times like this, it helps me to read the Psalms. I will keep you in my prayers! Just cry out to him and ask HIM to restore your passion for HIM and to fill you with the Truth!

God Bless You!
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