knowing GOd as love and good

Also, Romans 7: 14-24

Now I said that life through the Holy Spirt is the only way to TRUE freedom and joy. This is absolutely the Truth, but that doesn't mean that we won't endure hardships and sufferings as Christians. The difference is that if God is on our sides, then he will carry us through them and we can find joy and freedom even while experiencing pain. There is no freedom like being controlled by God rather than by evil. Seriously, give it a try!

God bless you! I will keep you in my prayers!

Hey thanks Christsdaugther..

Maybe I am not getting it or not..I know I struggle immensely with the flesh..I know I am doing things that are sinful..i know this..and i know i must stop...

But i have such a fear..dread of God.that is not right

i know there is no fear in love..i know there is no condemnation for those in Christ..i know them in my head.but i think i need to know the REAL truth of those scriptures.not what i was tought or my own interptation.

U make good points..I have said to God.God it will be up to you if I am to come back to you..cause i cant..i hate you to much..i have said..i give you all i can.i know its not much..but i give it to you.i have said this..

i dont knwo what to say.I am so ashamed to write these things over and over..I am mad at myself because I do not get it...

if you want all honestly...I want to know God...i read the bible..but the more I read the bible..the more judging angry God becomes to me.that is what i see in the bible..no matter how hard i try to see a good and loving God

you said not to be controlled by evil desires..but by God...if you only knew what had happened to me.and when you said this..how it hurt me to my heart..DONT get the wrong idea you said nothing wrong...but i have been so controlled in my life..so much.i felt possessed and stipped away

..I wish i could understand what you mean..but i dont..i honestly do not understand.if i did.i wouldnt be here

I wonder if people see me as stupid or having a pity party..i dont want this...it hurts me that i keep coming back here..posting this over and over..I know people dont think much of me...i know

you see God as you see..so you desire Him..you read the scriptures and you get encouraged..you understand what Good is..and what love is....

I read the bible.and fear how God is going to love me...or what good he has for me..i fear this...i reach out to people to learn from them about God..because I cant by myself..though I talk to him alot...deep in my heart.i have such a humility to not hurt people or God...or question Him..that it has hurt me in the end

I am sorry.....I am looking what to do..maybe i should shut up? or just have faith in God..i do that.but I still keep struggling...am I ok after all? or am I trapped?

it hurts so much not knowing what is right or wrong..even though the bible and rules are right in front of you..when your understanding has been destroyed and you cannot understand the simplest of words?

do i just faith have in God and live..I do that..yet am stuck..

sigh:S confused..bible says to believe in Jesus I do.and i try.i repent..yet i know im not perfect.and wonder

Hey thanks Christsdaugther..

Maybe I am not getting it or not..I know I struggle immensely with the flesh..I know I am doing things that are sinful..i know this..and i know i must stop...
The flesh is weak the spirit is strong.. you are failing because you are working it out in your flesh.. Brother.. there is no condemnation when we are in Christ JESUS.. I fail every day.. and that won't change for you when you walk with the LORD.. BUT we can live knowing we are free from sin.. and have Gods help when we fail... and most importantly HIS forgiveness and the condemnation we feel is not from God but satan.. so we can know once we confess those sins to God.. we are free to keep going and living without shame.. without fear and without condemnation..

But i have such a fear..dread of God.that is not right

I get fearful.. but it is what I do with that fear that matters.. God said don't fear.. but He did not say we wouldn't feel fear.. When we feel afraid.. we tell God and ask God for help.. and we look to HIM for his help.. Fear is not of God.. but we all get them afraid.. I can tell you though.. that when I give my fears to God.. He gives me peace and strength to face whatever I was afraid over..

i know there is no fear in love..i know there is no condemnation for those in Christ..i know them in my head.but i think i need to know the REAL truth of those scriptures.not what i was tought or my own interptation.

Great.. but to get them down into your spirit.. where they will start to work through to your flesh.. you need to meditate on them.. Take these things you said you know.. find them in the bible.. and meditate on those scriptures.. think on them.. say them.. faith comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD of GOD.. sometimes it is not enough to know something.. but to believe it one needs to act on what is known for it to work..
Truth comes when we act on it.. For the no condemnation to work... every time a thought comes to our mind that condemns us.. we have to mentally cast that thought aside.. not dwell on it.. We don't have to keep playing that over and over in our head and thus feel condemned.. It takes time to learn how to do that.. but practice makes perfect.. and it will happen!!

U make good points..I have said to God.God it will be up to you if I am to come back to you..cause i cant..i hate you to much..i have said..i give you all i can.i know its not much..but i give it to you.i have said this..

Great.. now no matter how you feel.. start to daily pray.. daily read the bible.. daily live as God desires for you.. Once you start doing that.. all these other things will change.. because you are moving towards HIM!!

i dont knwo what to say.I am so ashamed to write these things over and over..I am mad at myself because I do not get it...

Brother.. you are being helped even if you do not realise it.. These feelings that are coming to the surface are part of the process.. as silver is refined.. heated up.. the impurities come to the surface and they can be removed..

if you want all honestly...I want to know God...i read the bible..but the more I read the bible..the more judging angry God becomes to me.that is what i see in the bible..no matter how hard i try to see a good and loving God

I know this brother.. because you keep coming back.. Brother rest from how you view God... this has become a burden to you.. lay it down.. and let God teach you through His own words.. which are truth.. You will see what needs to be seen as time goes by.. maybe even sooner then that!!

you said not to be controlled by evil desires..but by God...if you only knew what had happened to me.and when you said this..how it hurt me to my heart..DONT get the wrong idea you said nothing wrong...but i have been so controlled in my life..so much.i felt possessed and stipped away

She is right about this.. doing what God wants is giving ourselves to HIS SPIRIT.. you know the fruits of the spirit.. love, joy, peace, patience, etc..
HIS Spirit.. will not fail.. You can never be too loving.. too kind.. etc..

..I wish i could understand what you mean..but i dont..i honestly do not understand.if i did.i wouldnt be here

Brother we all need to learn.. I am still learning.. understanding will come but it will not be human understanding rather.. spiritual understanding and it will set you free..

I wonder if people see me as stupid or having a pity party..i dont want this...it hurts me that i keep coming back here..posting this over and over..I know people dont think much of me...i know

Oh.. no you are not stupid.. Actually very very brave and courageous!!

you see God as you see..so you desire Him..you read the scriptures and you get encouraged..you understand what Good is..and what love is....

We had to start from the same point brother.. struggling to understand.. small and feeling un-important.. but at some point we had to lay it down and say.. I cannot do it.. but I will choose to do it YOUR way and I need your help.. and then peace came.. We still have to walk it out daily..

I read the bible.and fear how God is going to love me...or what good he has for me..i fear this...i reach out to people to learn from them about God..because I cant by myself..though I talk to him alot...deep in my heart.i have such a humility to not hurt people or God...or question Him..that it has hurt me in the end

Brother God loves you so much.. you will come to understand that more as you open yourself to HIM.. He really does care about you so very much.. and HE knows all this.. He truly does.. He is patient and long suffering towards us.. not willing any to perish..

I am sorry.....I am looking what to do..maybe i should shut up? or just have faith in God..i do that.but I still keep struggling...am I ok after all? or am I trapped?

Brother knock and the door will be opened to you.. there is so much more.. don't give up.. I can disciple you slowly and surely right here.. as your sister through Christ.. Or pray that someone else comes past.. or someone in your area right where you live.. that is not beyond God!!

it hurts so much not knowing what is right or wrong..even though the bible and rules are right in front of you..when your understanding has been destroyed and you cannot understand the simplest of words?

Truth is found in God.. and HIS WORD.. is truth.. seek and you will find.. meditate on the scriptures in HIS WORD you don't understand.. and HE will open them to you..

do i just faith have in God and live..I do that..yet am stuck..

You are not alone in this.. get into HIS WORD.. seek to understand what HE says.. and who HE is through it.. and HE will give you all YOU need and so much more..

sigh:S confused..bible says to believe in Jesus I do.and i try.i repent..

I continue to pray.. you are getting there brother.. Halleujah..

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Thanks all

sigh..peacechild and all...

it is so hard to seek God at this time..or even read...I cant tell left from right
I wish I could explain this one that is really hurting me..its like this: you know what words mean..you know the meaning of the word good for the dictionary tell you what it means...its like this for me..words for me have been changed..so i have been given a new dictionary..and it is not good...so when i read God is love or this or that..i am filled with fear..it like means evil to me
that is why it is soo so very hard to understand or come to God..cause of this understanding

I am sorry if I am repeating myself..I just keep seeing that people dont understand me when i write.I know I am bad for words...but I am really trying to tell you what its like..its not as easy as people write...it is not

argh..I read the bible..but only to throw it across the room.i pray before I read..sigh

I really wish i could explain this thing to you!!.i have been trying for years!..

and you are right.i know I have been trying to work out overcoming sin through the flesh..BUT i have been praying for overcoming sin


I have to confess this and bring it to light...because the bible says too

I know their are bad things I am doing in my life..living in sin..i have to confess it...sexual sin..addiction.etc etc

I wonder if God wont help me or work in my life

There are so many different things people about God..preach against this

you know..like pentecostal teachings..charamastic..propheicies etc etc..

it all scares me..and makes me run from God...like i hate the guy more then anything.in all truth..more then the devil..i knwo what I get from the devil...death..

but its scary cause i dont know what I get from God...with all the stuff I believe

I want to knwo if anyone can relate..like You guys love God and desire Him..you seek Him..love HIm..desire HIm..like DESIRE HIM

that is not with me..at all...i pray for GOd to change me.but a hurt apart of me.the angry part will slap his hand if he even touches me...

if this makes sense..please Dont judge me...I feel rapped by God some how..like spiritually violated..whats up with that??

can you pray God will send someone who can relate...this is destroying me..all this things i Know i have to talk about..but its not being delt with

I know i cannot do it alone anymore..but there is no one here

I have to tell you all something that is apart of it

as i said before of the unpardonable sin issue...it made me dread The Holy Spirit..i just shut my heart out..and it cannot be healed without God..But the problem is..i was taught in my old church ..like that The Holy Spirit wants to talk to us and help us..which is true..but you dont understand how much Satan has hurt me this way...i was literaly controlled by Him..and I thought it was the Spirit..this want on for years..i heart a voice in my head..and impressions..I that it might be God.so I obeyed..little did i know..it was NOT...well if i didnt obey.i was told I was sinning.and i was not doing this right or that..well it left me hurt.confused..condemned guilty..confused..angry etc etc..this went on for years

i heard this through dreams and visions..even to this day...God telling me i wont get married.symbolic dreams of how the demons were influencing me..telling me this was wrong.or that..every night and that..telling me things..that i thought was from God..hurtful things.that cut to the soul!..made me come out with such a warped impression on God..still to this day..because i wonder where it came from..

this all caused me to run away from God..and hate him..but what i saw seemed so righteous and from God..because people and church reinforced what i saw and experienced..so i went along with it..thinking it was from God..sigh

i got so hurt and my heart broken from this..to where my heart is so closed off from thinking because of pain.and the thoughts of the unpardonable sin..i shut it off because of fear of understanding words and stuff..beacuse it always lead to pain..and the unpardonable sin...

IT HURTS ME SO MUCH THAT IN FEAR I CANNOT EVEN VISUALIZE OR THINK ON THE HOLY SPIRIT OT TALK TO HIM!!!..because of this!!! because i cant even come to GOd..because of this..i cant read the bible because I am affraid The Holy Spirit

I know He is good..i know alot will not understand this..i cant explain it myself

I WANT SOMEONE TO UNDERSTAND ME!!

thats why i keep writing it..beacuse it hurts so [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]ing much!

sigh..can anyone relate at all???

is God good?? wants to give me good things?? or am I going to get disciplined and reaped with trials intill I submit???

the bible says LOVE DOES NOT HARM..but everyone preaches that GOd hurts us..yet they say it a different way.that sounds right and truth

[wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]!


sorry for words..God bless

Brother all I can think of tonight to say to you is.. I am so glad God is helping you..

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Yes, Praise the the that he is helping you! Just trust him and then you will someday look back at all this and see how far He has taken you and how he can use you to help people going through the same thing!

Hey all I am back

I think God confirmed of spoke to me personally in the night..

not sure..but said like you can overcome struggles in the power of the flesh..with my own strength..its impossible but only with His strength
furthermore.. I saw fur branches..like you know fur tree leaves..like they are feathered shaped..I saw them..and understood I was under Gods wings of protection.i woke up happy and trusting God

I am asking for pray for Self Control..it hurts me deeply..I have OCD.and I have always have had a problem with a addictive personality..its been with everything I like.i go through phazes..when i like something and i get into it..I really get into it..like kind of obsessed..comes with OCD..aka Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

I am asking for help here. I read bible..but dont understand what it means..like i know fear is a huge block in my walk with God..but I do have a desire to walk in self control..and not in excess..I like alot of things..but I dont want to have to like stop doing like sports or the things I like due to my personality or disorder..or most likely troubles with the flesh

I need self control..yet i dont know what moderation is...lol..i feel bad so much.its hard to know between false guilt and real guilt..or even condemnation or conviction..LOL

anyway God bless

Brother.. I am going to pray and believe for your healing of OCD!! I will pray over the self-control too.. I need that same prayer for myself..

I am so glad you are sensing God.. I will pray for understanding as you read the bible!! One thing that might help is.. stop trying to understand it.. but just go over anything a few times.. dwell your thoughts on it.. roll it over in your mind.. and let the understanding come to you.. rather then try to force it.. because when we do that.. we kind of take from what we already know and may sense of it.. And most likely what we already know is not the truth or only part of it..

The HOLY SPIRIT will open it up to you.. but we must seek.. and then we will find.. seeking is simply using our bibles.. using a dictionary over a word to find more meaning, using different translations..

I like the blue letter bible.. you can search out the meaning of words from the hebrew and greek.. it opens it right up.. the original meanings of words.. reading books of good writers.. watching good bible teachings.. there is so much help out there.. and the HOLY SPIRIT of course will lead you all the way through.. Once you get a hunger for it.. wow.. it is amazing the things you will learn.. and understand in ways you never thought possible!

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