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Old 27th September 2008, 07:17 PM
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"The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. It has sown violence and discord at the heart of the most intimate human relationships. It has aggravated the derogation of the father's role in an increasingly fatherless society"- Mother Theresa

"But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child - a direct killing of the innocent child - murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another? How do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion?

As always, we must persuade her with love, and we remind ourselves that love means to be willing to give until it hurts. Jesus gave even his life to love us. So the mother who is thinking of abortion, should be helped to love - that is, to give until it hurts... her plans, or her free time, to respect the life of her child. The father of that child, whoever he is, must also give until it hurts. By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems.

And by abortion, the father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world. That father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So abortion just leads to more abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching the people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. That is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion".
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Old 27th September 2008, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by skylark1 View Post
Will there be any sort of exception made for the unorthodox theology forum and the subforums within it? There are unorthodox beliefs and issues that are contrary to the CF SoF. My understanding is that generally that is why these beliefs and issues are regulated to discussion in this forum and subforums.
Yes. Unorthodox Theology will be open. We're looking at either moving UT, or keeping it in Theology, and just not placing any software restrictions on that forum.
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Old 27th September 2008, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jase View Post
Way to alienate seekers. I thought the goal was to spread the message of Jesus - not form some elitist cult.
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Old 27th September 2008, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jase View Post
Whose decision was this anyway? Making the theology forums Christian only is the epitome of stupidity. Way to alienate seekers. I thought the goal was to spread the message of Jesus - not form some elitist cult.
I think the decision was an excellent one. And the tech change will take the load off the mods enforcing it, because the rule is broken dozens of times each day.

This forum has several purposes -- edification and fellowship within the Christian community (in the CO forums) as well as outreach (in the outreach forums).

I would like to ask, though: what is the official list of Christian icons?
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Old 27th September 2008, 10:20 PM
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This may help although it may not be the officially list

Nicene CHRISTIAN ICONS

Christian
Non-Denominational
Lutheran
Anglican
Baptist
Calvinist
Presbyterian
Methodist
United Church of Christ
Wesleyan
Nazarene
Salvation Army
Anabaptist
Calvary Chapel
Pentecostal
Charismatic
Word-of-Faith
Utrecht
Catholic
Eastern Orthodox
Oriental Orthodox/Coptic Orthodox
Messianic
Seventh Day Adventist


NON-Nicene Christian ICONS

Christian Seeker
Other-Church
Non-Trinitarian Messianic
Unitarian
Mormon
Jehovahs Witness
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Old 27th September 2008, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Radagast View Post
I think the decision was an excellent one. And the tech change will take the load off the mods enforcing it, because the rule is broken dozens of times each day.
So that is the primary reason for this change, so mods don't have to do as much? Instead of segregating - get more mods, or find mods who actually have the time and willingness to enforce the forums.

This forum has several purposes -- edification and fellowship within the Christian community (in the CO forums) as well as outreach (in the outreach forums).
There is an entire subforum dedicated to edification. I don't see a problem with that being Christian only. The theology forum, however, includes apologetics, science, ethics, etc. discussions that become quite dry without any opposing views. And we all know fundamentalists/evangelicals just pat each other on the back regardless of how horribly poor their arguments are.

Not to mention, you do realize that Jews are excluded from that forum too right? I realize there aren't a lot of Jewish posters here, but merely on principle, the fact that God's chosen people who brought about Christianity can't even post in "Theology" is rather insulting.
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Old 27th September 2008, 10:41 PM
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Are the non-Nicene Christian icons allowed the same posting privileges as Nicene Christian icons?
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Old 27th September 2008, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jase View Post
So that is the primary reason for this change, so mods don't have to do as much? Instead of segregating - get more mods, or find mods who actually have the time and willingness to enforce the forums.
No, that's not what I said. Given that the decision was made for various other reasons, I said the tech change would help the mods.

I've been a mod here, and it's a tough job. And the only payment received is a lot of personal abuse. I take my hat off to the mods still around.

Originally Posted by Jase View Post
The theology forum, however, includes apologetics, science, ethics, etc. discussions that become quite dry without any opposing views.
Many of those topics have a CO version and an open version. People can choose where they want to be.
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Old 27th September 2008, 10:55 PM
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Are the non-Nicene Christian icons allowed the same posting privileges as Nicene Christian icons?
I assume that "However, any post that is contrary to Christian Forums' Statement of Faith will be removed" means that non-Trinitarian posts will be removed.

We could probably do with clarification on whether non-Trinitarian members are allowed to post in CO forums.
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