Creationism is NOT Biblical

Moreover, if necessary, I could name five noted Bible scholars who agree with me.

Creationists often accuse Theistic Evolutionists of not taking the Bible literally, while it is them who do not read Genesis as it is.

The straightforward reading of Genesis 4:13-15 has Cain being sent to another land, and fearing a group of people who were unrelated to him. If the only other people who existed were Adam and Eve, then who was Cain afraid of? And more specifically, where did Cain's wife come from?

Normally, creationists will point out that because Adam was 130 when he begat Seth, the time period from Cain's birth to Abel's death may have been 100 years, allowing for plenty of time for other children of Adam and Eve to marry and have children. Thus by the time Abel was killed, there existed many descendants of Adam. Yet this completely mangles the Biblical chronology. The only other children that Adam and Eve are said to have had came after Seth (Genesis 5:4).

Furthermore, the creationist interpretation has Adam being 30 years old when Cain was born -- which is atypical of that era.

Seth was 105 before he had his first child; Enosh 90, Jared 162 and Methusaleh 187. Based on this evidence, one can reasonably speculate that Adam was over 100 when he begat his first child. This would render the creationist assumption that before Seth, Adam and Eve had other children besides Cain and Abel, to be wishful thinking at best.

Creationists will further point out that Eve "was the mother of all living." However, the fire of Sodom is also said to have "destroyed them all." The fire did not wipe out everyone in the world, but only those in Sodom.

Likewise, Eve did not mother everyone in the world, only those in Eden (or whichever region she was located). A similar refutation can be made for "there was not a man to till the ground".

When Paul said that through one man sin came into the world, presumably he meant that Adam was the first man to sin by disobeying God. Once again, it does not mean that sin was biologically transmitted to every human being who now exists.

Moreover, if necessary, I could name five noted Bible scholars who agree with me.

What happens when a bible thumper like me is a Creationist ‘and’ a Theistic Evolutionist? Maybe in your universe I have many disagreements with myself. :0)

Cain joined the sixth day people of Genesis 1:26-28 that have been around for millions of years. My post on the differences between the sixth and seventh day races is here.

First off all, ‘Creationists’ believe all kinds of things and oftentimes argue among themselves about everything from Genesis to Revelation.

Atypical? :0) Lordy. Harping about ‘creationists’ is not making an evolution case for anything in Genesis 1 or Genesis 2. Scripture says, “In the beginning GOD CREATED the Heaven and the Earth.” Genesis 1:1. Therefore, beginning your evolution argument in Genesis 4 makes very little sense to this Creationist/Evolutionist.

Who cares? God still created the prehistoric people on the ‘sixth day’ (Gen. 1:26-28) and the Lord God (Christ) formed Adam on the ‘seventh day’ after God rested in Genesis 2:1-3.

Eve is mother of all the living (Gen. 3:20), because she (helper on right) represents ‘the earth’

The Lord God of Genesis 2 formed Adam with Eve and her seed IN him, just like the heavens, heaven and earth are all one and the same thing in Genesis 1:1.

The Garden is also a heavenly habitation (far left) from which Adam and Eve were driven out to begin their human existence at the end of Genesis 3 (the fall)

God is talking about sin entering the ‘righteous branch’ that began with Adam, Eve, Seth down to Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, the Patriarchs, David and so forth.

For you to sit there and say that Creationism is not Biblical is to say "God" is not Biblical, because He is the One doing the "creating" before anything in this universe had the opportunity to evolve one way or the other

Based on this evidence, one can reasonably speculate that Adam was over 100 when he begat his first child. This would render the creationist assumption that before Seth, Adam and Eve had other children besides Cain and Abel, to be wishful thinking at best.

The two are mutually exclusive as far as I'm concerned, hence why there are forums dedicated to such vehemently opposing views.

The two are mutually exclusive as far as I'm concerned, hence why there are forums dedicated to such vehemently opposing views. Creationists like Ham and Hovind go out of their way to disassociate themselves with the Darwinian paradigm.

Huh? What do you mean Mongols have no beards? Every known depiction of Genghis Khan makes a mockery of that statement.

Every young-earth creationist organization I have ever known, from AIG to ICR, promotes this sort of non-Biblical explanation. I wasn't setting up a strawman.

Yet Genesis 4 challenges the creationist dogma that all men are descended from Adam.

Therefore, if, like me, you're an evolutionist who takes Adam as an historical figure, the belief that human types have existed for hundreds of thousands of years would not conflict with the Bible.

Cro-Magnons are classified as 'prehistoric people' -- yet they had a larger brain capacity than modern man. 'Primitive' is a pejorative term used to describe a superior lifestyle.

Kind of like Gaia, the Greek goddess.

So, Adam and Eve were supernaturally created, but everyone and everything else evolved naturally?

Incidentally, I interpret Genesis 2:7 as 'God evolved man of the earth's bacteria'.

The fact that Genesis 4:16 says "Nod, East of Eden" connotes that the Garden was a physical, as opposed to spiritual, habitation.

Obviously, Adam and Eve were not righteous. They only needed one commandment to break.

Creationism is full of lies, and lies are of Satan.

Nowhere does the Bible state the age of the earth, and for any creationist to say otherwise, is a server of falsehood.

Aren't you just pitting your speculation against theirs?

IMHO it would help everybody to take a step back from Genesis,
glean the "big picture" truths God is teaching, and agree to
disagree on the minute specifics of the passage. Not everything
in God's Word is easy to understand and this is one case
IMHO.

Every young-earth creationist organization I have ever known, from AIG to ICR...