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Originally Posted by SiderealExalt View Post
Like I said, learn what the law of conservation of mass/energy is. I learned about it by the end of grade school so it shouldn't be hard.
I thought you packed it in?

Where did the mass and energy come from? When you chaosians figure that out, then you can lecture us all from your lofty thrones on Mt Elitism. For now, reality will just have to do.
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Where did the mass and energy come from?
LMAO this is funny. You really don't know that law do you? I thought you were joking.
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Originally Posted by SiderealExalt View Post
LMAO this is funny. You really don't know that law do you? I thought you were joking.
From your throne on high, you LYAO echo sounds like thunder I'm sure.

When do we get to William of Occam and Blaise Pascal? Or is this the part where the atheist gets all sciency on the poor little Christian?
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Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan View Post
Academia anyone?
Absolute power? In academia?

Your mind. Has you lost it?
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Your mind. Has you lost it?
I think at the point he showed his lack of knowledge over the law of conservation of mass/energy that idea popped into my head as well.
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Originally Posted by SiderealExalt View Post
LMAO this is funny. You really don't know that law do you?
Entropy will absolutely silence your giddiness without any doubt.

But for now, pack it in.
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Entropy will absolutely silence your giddiness without any doubt.
See also closed and open systems.

Seriously, is this discussion honestly over your head. I mean that without prejudice or ego. Simply as a question. Because you're honestly showing a lack of some basic things that make these discussions possible.
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Originally Posted by Flibbertigibbet View Post
IMO, atheism does not require "faith" that there is not a God. It's a lack of belief, not a value set.

Cantata makes a good point regarding lack of belief and why it shouldn't be classified as religion.

Religion is defined as:
    1. <LI type=a>Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
    2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
  1. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
  2. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
  3. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
Atheism is a religion by definition:

1. The suffix -ism denotes a distinctive system of beliefs, myth, doctrine, or theory, that guides a social movement, institution, class, or group.
2. Definitions:
Religion -
n.
Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
Atheism - n.
Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
Hinduism - n.A diverse body of religion, philosophy, and cultural practice native to and predominant in India, characterized by a belief in reincarnation and a supreme being of many forms and natures, by the view that opposing theories are aspects of one eternal truth, and by a desire for liberation from earthly evils.
Humanism - n.
A is a broad category of ethical philosophies that affirm the dignity and worth of all people, based on the ability to determine right and wrong by appeal to universal human qualities—particularly rationality
Humanism clearly rejects deference to supernatural beliefs in resolving human affairs but not necessarily the beliefs themselves; indeed some strains of Humanism are compatible with some religions.
Christianity - n.
The Christian religion, founded on the life and teachings of Jesus.
Christians as a group; Christendom.
The state or fact of being a Christian.
Sure sounds like a religion to be, full of beliefs, that and doctrine. Disbelief is the belief in nothing.
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Originally Posted by SiderealExalt View Post
See also closed and open systems.

Seriously, is this discussion honestly over your head. I mean that without prejudice or ego.
I prefer your puffy eltism over dishonesty.

Simply as a question. Because you're honestly showing a lack of some basic things that make these discussions possible.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics does not come after the first? I got that wrong prof?

Let's see, degree still on the wall, hands not shaking. Everything in the universe is "still" in place, no accident about it.
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Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan View Post
Entropy will absolutely silence your giddiness without any doubt.

But for now, pack it in.
Why not take your quaintly self-assured psyche on over to one of the science forums? I think you will find your elementary understanding of physics and biology fails spectacularly.
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