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25th June 2009, 02:39 AM
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Reps: 1,244,074,964,743 (power: 1,244,074,968) | | Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan Freethinkers always thinking exactly the same. Oh, yeah. OK.
Remember, Polycarp_fan, that you are unique, just like everyone else. as if they are deep thinkers on anything other than bashing Christians
That hurt my feelings. A lot of my young life was lived with thoughts that align well with paganism.
Do you still have those thoughts? Why not be a pagan? There are many Christian scientists and a heck of a lot of Christian medical Doctors. I'm sorry Mr Dawkins, Mr. Hitchens, those Christian people as idiots?
One can be rational in one area and irrational in another, right?
I think that just because you are Christian does not imply complete ignorance and stupidity. I can get straight A's in school while acting like a complete idiot when playing soccer.
However, I also think that belief in some parts of Christianity is irrational. It boils down to the Atheist's holding on to the No True Scotsman silliness that they slap us in the face with. Once I turn the other cheek, I get to slap back. Isn't that how it goes? I'm sure an atheist will tell me.
I'm afraid I don't really understand the meaning of this section. Could you clarify for me?
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Not, it can work...You see, babies need attention and food, teenagesr need food and money, and guys living with their mothers need money and beer; but robots only require energon cubes. Better yet, we could construct churches that double as consciousness repositories and network everyone into a new denomination that overlooks the pitiful boundaries of flesh.
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25th June 2009, 04:42 PM
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25th June 2009, 06:52 PM
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Reps: 30,957,804,797 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by roflcopter101  Remember, Polycarp_fan, that you are unique, just like everyone else.
Interesting that that is "encoded" in my DNA from conception.
Sniff, sniff. You smell that? Logic is cooking.
Really? You know I try so hard not to hurt the feelings of an atheist. Do you still have those thoughts? Why not be a pagan?
I'm a Christian. What is not compatible with the Gospel I will not support. One can be rational in one area and irrational in another, right?
That seems like something I can agree with. I think that just because you are Christian does not imply complete ignorance and stupidity.
I'm sure being ignorant of many things is just a matter of time and logistics. I can get straight A's in school while acting like a complete idiot when playing soccer.
But you can't get something from nothing causing it. However, I also think that belief in some parts of Christianity is irrational.
OK. I believe you. I'm afraid I don't really understand the meaning of this section. Could you clarify for me?
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25th June 2009, 07:11 PM
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And of course: You Christians are suppoded to be sarcastic and caustic.
No true Christian would be rude and nasty to someone . . .
Etc., etc., etc..
Well, saying that no true Christian would be rude or whatever is just silly. Being a Christian, as far as I can tell, does not encase you in some sort of anti-sin protective coating that ensures you never do anything wrong. To your credit, I have never seen you make such a ridiculous claim, though it has been made on this forum. |
25th June 2009, 07:24 PM
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Reps: 30,957,804,797 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by b&wpac4 Well, saying that no true Christian would be rude or whatever is just silly. Being a Christian, as far as I can tell, does not encase you in some sort of anti-sin protective coating that ensures you never do anything wrong. To your credit, I have never seen you make such a ridiculous claim, though it has been made on this forum.
I'm just a man. Push me and I push back. Attack those I love and you get what's coming to you. Thank you noticing that I do not present that I live above it all or you or anyone else. I'm just a human being.
BUT, if it were to be for persecution reasons or as an ultimatum to deny Christ, or to promote the Gospel by violence, then I get what's supposed to come to me as a Christian. I cannot be violent to spread the Gospel. There is no forced conversions of anyone from words quoted of Jesus.
But that doesn't mean we Christians are supposed to take nonsense passed off as Christian truth. You can debate everything non-violently. Sorry though, sometimes insults are part of the debate scenario. Even Jesus insulted people. And the Apostles were not martyred for be late on their taxes. |
25th June 2009, 07:28 PM
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Reps: 142,567,785,179,653,616 (power: 142,567,785,179,661) | | Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan Interesting that that is "encoded" in my DNA from conception.
Sniff, sniff. You smell that? Logic is cooking.
I can definitely smell your logic going up in smoke since your DNA was encoded through natural chemical processes. =) |
25th June 2009, 10:55 PM
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Reps: 30,957,804,797 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by sandwiches I can definitely smell your logic going up in smoke since your DNA was encoded through natural chemical processes. =)
It was delivered to the individual by natural chemical processes, but the DNA code? If your accidental universe created it, there would not be so many similar human beings. There would be six-billion individual new species members.
I'm going with geneticist Francis Collins over your common skeptic smugness. Even Sam Harris could do little more than mock and chide a Christian scientific treatment of DNA. You still have literally nothing as your driving force for your eliteness. Enjoyable as entertainment (laughter is good for health) for sure, if it weren't really so typical of the non-godian position.
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26th June 2009, 12:02 AM
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Reps: 142,567,785,179,653,616 (power: 142,567,785,179,661) | | Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan It was delivered to the individual by natural chemical processes, but the DNA code? If your accidental universe created it, there would not be so many similar human beings. There would be six-billion individual new species members.
Why would we all be different species if all living humans were born of other humans? I'm going with geneticist Francis Collins over your common skeptic smugness. Even Sam Harris could do little more than mock and chide a Christian scientific treatment of DNA. You still have literally nothing as your driving force for your eliteness. Enjoyable as entertainment (laughter is good for health) for sure, if it weren't really so typical of the non-godian position.
"Non-godian." I'll have to remember that one. 
At any rate, are you referring to the Francis Collins who even though he sees the work of a god in DNA, ACCEPTS evolution as unequivocally evident and is working to progress our current understanding of evolution? Is it that Francis Collins? |
26th June 2009, 12:06 AM
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Reps: 178,751,386,065,373,056 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by sandwiches At any rate, are you referring to the Francis Collins who even though he sees the work of a god in DNA, ACCEPTS evolution as unequivocally evident and is working to progress our current understanding of evolution? Is it that Francis Collins?
The FGP guy? Yep, leading geneticist, evangelical Christian, and firm believer in evolution. My kind of scientist. |
26th June 2009, 12:09 AM
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Reps: 142,567,785,179,653,616 (power: 142,567,785,179,661) | | Originally Posted by LightHorseman The FGP guy? Yep, leading geneticist, evangelical Christian, and firm believer in evolution. My kind of scientist.
Yea. He's a brilliant scientist. Curiously enough he's a Christian and an evolutionist. He sees no conflicts in the matter. He simply realizes that the Bible is not meant to be a book of science and doesn't take every single word from the Bible literally. | | |
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