[/color] No, studied as in read into it. You don’t have to be a scientist to read up on concepts. I’m going to take it that you haven’t, seeing as you seem to have this 17th century deterministic clockwork universe in your head. Go read up on QM, it’s fascinating. Especially entanglement, the uncertainly principle and virtual particles. You’ll like virtual particles – something from nothing, an uncaused event.
Interesting that the further we go the more things don't look chaotic. You pan backwards and see it all unfold. Nope, we Christians are really into new science. It's not proving a choas to order thing. Order to order from order. Cyclical.
Not to put a downer on the many great Christian scientists, but the church and Christianity as an entity don’t have a great track record.
You need to start reading some Dinesh D'Souza. Your views may be the ones deluded through propaganda journalism.
Individuals, sure, there were some brilliant Christian minds, but then that’s not surprising when most minds were Christian in the west. That’s just probability.
How laughable a brush off is that.
There’s still the creationists though.
Using science.
Where did God come from? And how do we define what came before time? Your clockwork universe is breaking down.
That's pitful logic. Where did time come from. That IS logic. If the clock is winding down, then it must have had a start. And if you mean breaking down is in evidence, even your great atheist apolgists are stuttering in debate after debate with Christian apologists to defend a cosmos from chaos. Of course their's always space aliens.
The big bad scientist bogey-man is just not frightening anymore. He's now are bestest buddy. BFF. Literally.
No, cyclical system does not have something from nothing, that’s the point. I’ve not saying that’s the answer, just encouraging a bit of thought off the narrow path.
The cyclical system is the very essence of Biblical reality.
How did John know? Trapped on that Island and having a dream about "God" restarting the hole of creation?
Man this is exciting times in which we Christians live. Watching scientists prove our positions right.
Wait, wait, I mean:
P.S. Oh, would you like the reference to the cycle in Revelations?
Interesting that the further we go the more things don't look chaotic. You pan backwards and see it all unfold. Nope, we Christians are really into new science. It's not proving a choas to order thing. Order to order from order. Cyclical.
Speak for yourself; many Christians here disagree with you.
You need to start reading some Dinesh D'Souza. Your views may be the ones deluded through propaganda journalism.
How laughable a brush off is that.
Using science.
That's pitful logic. Where did time come from. That IS logic. If the clock is winding down, then it must have had a start. And if you mean breaking down is in evidence, even your great atheist apolgists are stuttering in debate after debate with Christian apologists to defend a cosmos from chaos. Of course their's always space aliens.
The big bad scientist bogey-man is just not frightening anymore. He's now are bestest buddy. BFF. Literally.
The cyclical system is the very essence of Biblical reality.
How did John know? Trapped on that Island and having a dream about "God" restarting the hole of creation?
Man this is exciting times in which we Christians live. Watching scientists prove our positions right.
Wait, wait, I mean:
P.S. Oh, would you like the reference to the cycle in Revelations?
It is obvious you have no idea about anything scientific let alone Quantum physics.
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NOPE! try again and explain how a CAR stays working!
designed order? If this was the case then all machines would never experience faults and or breakdowns. Honestly your lack of scientific erudition could not be more evident.
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Originally Posted by Psudopod [/color]No, studied as in read into it. You don’t have to be a scientist to read up on concepts. I’m going to take it that you haven’t, seeing as you seem to have this 17th century deterministic clockwork universe in your head. Go read up on QM, it’s fascinating. Especially entanglement, the uncertainly principle and virtual particles. You’ll like virtual particles – something from nothing, an uncaused event. Interesting that the further we go the more things don't look chaotic. You pan backwards and see it all unfold. Nope, we Christians are really into new science. It's not proving a choas to order thing. Order to order from order. Cyclical.
Only on a macroscopic level. Like I said, go and learn about QM and come back when you have a better understanding of reality.
There’s still the creationists though. Using science.
Where?
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LOL. Schoolyard comebacks just don't cut it. And certainly do not support your opinion.
Lol, yeah, I haven't heard someone query my backing in quantum physics since grade school. Next he'll be all like, "I'm rubber and your glue so your position is untenable based on all accepted theories of macroeconomics and your proposed regulation would fail by any metric."
why, what kind of grade school did the rest of you go to?
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Lol, yeah, I haven't heard someone query my backing in quantum physics since grade school. Next he'll be all like, "I'm rubber and your glue so your position is untenable based on all accepted theories of macroeconomics and your proposed regulation would fail by any metric."
why, what kind of grade school did the rest of you go to?
Your serious? No wait your are.
The atheist's position comes down to taunts and puffy positioning of science that can no more support atheism than it does support the Easter Bunny. And then when that runs out they blame Sky Daddy for babies born blind. Yeah, real deep thoughts.
The atheist's position comes down to taunts and puffy positioning of science that can no more support atheism than it does support the Easter Bunny.
here's the thing, when we look at the chain of the conversation, it was based off a demonstrably wrong statement you made:
Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan
Physics.
The universe is not random chaos. It is observable and provable through mathematics.
Originally Posted by Psudopod
You haven't studied quantum mechanics, have you? The universe is not nearly as deterministic as we first thought.
Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan
Study as in being a scientist in the field? Don't get goofy.
I don't have to be a car mechanic to understand how a car stays working.
Originally Posted by Psudopod
No, studied as in read into it. You don’t have to be a scientist to read up on concepts. I’m going to take it that you haven’t, seeing as you seem to have this 17th century deterministic clockwork universe in your head. Go read up on QM, it’s fascinating.
Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan
Interesting that the further we go the more things don't look chaotic. You pan backwards and see it all unfold.
Originally Posted by tanzanos
It is obvious you have no idea about anything scientific let alone Quantum physics.
Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan
LOL. Schoolyard comebacks just don't cut it. And certainly do not support your opinion.
You assumed, and apparently still assume a clockwork universe. That is false. You were called on it and you brushed off legitimate criticism as schoolyard taunts.
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here's the thing, when we look at the chain of the conversation, it was based off a demonstrably wrong statement you made:
You assumed, and apparently still assume a clockwork universe. That is false. You were called on it and you brushed off legitimate criticism as schoolyard taunts.
The extent of the lack of a clockwork universe was demonstrated in that recent study that demonstrated that particle + antiparticle = strangeness...but only if you don't look at it.
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