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22nd June 2009, 08:49 PM
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Reps: 142,567,785,179,653,616 (power: 142,567,785,179,661) | | Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan Interesting, accidents in the dark don't create things even at the atomic level in the dark.
If by accidents you mean deterministic events cannot create anything, then you must obviously be blind as all throughout the world and the universe things are constantly being created (and destroyed) through natural processes without the help of any intelligent guidance. Maybe some atheists. Maybe. But it is always when they are mimicking Christian morality.
Which Christian's morals? The majority of Christians are as equally moral as non-Christians. So, belief in Christ doesn't seem to have much influence into personal ethics. | 
22nd June 2009, 09:05 PM
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Reps: 30,957,804,797 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by tanzanos Sorry but! No room for god even at the planck level
Oh man that's hilarious Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan Even more God there. At the tiniest levels more and more logic for a Creator. How Is the Universe Built? Grain by Grain How Is the Universe Built? Grain by Grain
By GEORGE JOHNSON
In the article: You have finally hit rock bottom: a span called the Planck length, the shortest anything can get. According to recent developments in the quest to devise a so-called "theory of everything," space is not an infinitely divisible continuum. It is not smooth but granular, and the Planck length gives the size of its smallest possible grains.
The time it takes for a light beam to zip across this ridiculously tiny distance (about 10 to the minus 43 seconds) is called the Planck time, the shortest possible tick of an imaginary clock. Combine these two ideas and the implication is that space and time have a structure. What is commonly thought of as the featureless void is built from tiny units, or quanta.
And also in the article: As Dr. John Baez, a theorist at the University of California at Riverside put it: "There's a lot we don't know about nothing."
We do know it cannot make anything happen or move. As in physics, quantum physics. | 
22nd June 2009, 11:01 PM
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But it certainly puts it in the same category as leprechauns, ghosts, fairies, and chupacabras.
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22nd June 2009, 11:16 PM
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Reps: 30,957,804,797 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by sandwiches If by accidents you mean deterministic events cannot create anything, then you must obviously be blind as all throughout the world and the universe things are constantly being created (and destroyed) through natural processes without the help of any intelligent guidance.
Which Christian's morals? The majority of Christians are as equally moral as non-Christians. So, belief in Christ doesn't seem to have much influence into personal ethics.
Your personal opinion is noted. But even GLBT's look to be searching for morality Christian style. | 
22nd June 2009, 11:19 PM
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Reps: 622,365,155,739,938,304 (power: 622,365,155,739,949) | | Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan Your personal opinion is noted. But even GLBT's look to be searching for morality Christian style.
What exactly is "morality Christian style"? | 
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Reps: 3,420,883,339,671,885 (power: 3,420,883,339,684) | | Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan Your personal opinion is noted. But even GLBT's look to be searching for morality Christian style.
how is that? | 
22nd June 2009, 11:25 PM
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Reps: 30,957,804,797 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by [serious] how is that?
Marriage. It's mimicked Christian morality style. With all of the monogamy trimmings as well.
You don't read the gays that post here? | 
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Reps: 622,365,155,739,938,304 (power: 622,365,155,739,949) | | Originally Posted by Polycarp_fan Marriage. It's mimicked Christian morality style. With all of the monogamy trimmings as well.
You don't read the gays that post here? 
Oh, so marriage is only a Christian thing, is it? What about all the marriage that occurred, say, BEFORE Christians were around? | 
22nd June 2009, 11:40 PM
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Reps: 142,567,785,179,653,616 (power: 142,567,785,179,661) | | Originally Posted by b&wpac4 Oh, so marriage is only a Christian thing, is it? What about all the marriage that occurred, say, BEFORE Christians were around?
LOL
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Reps: 622,365,155,739,938,304 (power: 622,365,155,739,949) | | Originally Posted by sandwiches LOL
It's crazy when you can destroy such a terrible attempt at an argument with the completely obvious. It's sad, actually.
Yes, I can promise that Mary and Joesph were not married at Jerusalem Baptist Church. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |